[NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

Wed Nov 25 08:08:20 AKST 2009

I have no problem with what others fly if it's in the rules, even if it's a 4-cycle. If I ever do an SPA plane it will have a 61 (or 55) AND look like the original, my choice. But there are a few things that I do think are an issue.

The rules state that you can fly Novice and not be a member, all other classes you must. So now if I want to go fly again at an SPA contest, I will have to fly Novice. I'm not sure many of the Novice pilots will like that. And had I know about this rule before the end of the contest in GA, I would have only been Ryan's PB and helped out where ever needed.

Some of the ducks just look like geese.

Some of the 91's that are flying are 'blue-printed motors'. I also understand that these are not commercially available to any Joe Schmoe. Well, that seems a bit unfair to me, but again, I would only fly a 2-stroke anyway.

But the thing I really enjoyed was the contest itself. I had a blast and nice and relaxing. It was the break I was looking for. Go 4lb Kaos'...lol

Regards,
Jason
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Phil Spelt 
  To: General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:36 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

  Well, Guys,

  I was preparing a response to Ron Van Putte, but it appears this is not the venue for that.  Everyone is free to choose with whom to associate, and while we in SPA are sorry to have lost the people who have chosen not to fly with us, that was/is their choice.  If you check with Jason Shulman, you might find a different perspective.

  I won't go into the many discussions I have had with fellow SPAers about the direction of AMA pattern, as directed by the NSRCA -- but they are frequent, and those of us having them choose not to fly AMA pattern - but we don't publicly criticize it, either.  I judged several rounds at an AMA meet last season, and while I really like the turn around part, the judging reinforced my decision to fly SPA, only.

  BTW, if anyone is interested in some 2-meter stuff (engines and airframes) you can email me privately...it would be great stuff @ a reasonable price for entry into 2-meter pattern, and up through Advanced.

  At 10:23 AM 11/25/2009, you wrote:

    That's the reason I quite SPA also. 4-cycles!!  There is not much challenge flying the old pattern with a overpowered (90 4c) engine.  That was what made it hard!  The scavenge-pot 60's didn't really have enough power, so you had to FLY the airplane.. If they are allowing 90 4c engines, why not allow ANY power plant!

    Tony Stillman, President
    Radio South, Inc.
    139 Altama Connector, Box 322
    Brunswick, GA  31525
    1-800-962-7802
    www.radiosouthrc.com

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    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [ mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Pete Cosky
    Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:20 AM
    To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

    I'm with you John. When I was into racing anything vintage had to be....well...vintage.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: John Pavlick 

      To: General pattern discussion 

      Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 10:13 AM

      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

      Electrics in SPA? Jeez, that's kind of hard to stomach. Next they're going to allow electronic fuel-injection and anti-lock brakes in Vintage Sports Car Racing. LOL

      John Pavlick

      --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Jerry Combs <jcombs1947 at att.net> wrote:

        From: Jerry Combs <jcombs1947 at att.net>

        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Alabama Bound

        To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

        Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 9:50 AM

        I don't understand the 13" prop bit either.  On my Axi 4130-20 on 6 cells a 13" prop gives me around 500 watts.

        Jerry

        Scott, What is the reason behind a 13 inch prop limit for electric? There

        isn't any limit on prop sizes for IC engines is there? A flyer with an IC

        engine searches for the best prop size to the particular plane and engine

        combo, it seems that electric flyers should have the same flexibility.

        Dave Burton 

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