[NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet

[Bill Glaze]

Remember, (or, really, be informed) that the white gas I used in the mid-1940's came out of a pump at a small gas station near our house.  It came out of the same type pumps that were used to pump automobile gas; in fact, it was in the same row as the rest of the pumps.  It seemed to work perfectly for my purpose of the (then) spark ignition Ohlsson & Rice engines.  And, even then, Coleman fuel was considered by folks to be not white gas,but something entirely different.  As a kid, I was never told the difference, if, even then, the "adults" knew the difference, or even if there was a difference.  I don't know, to this day.
Bill
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Ferrell 
  To: General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet


  I am not sure what you are calling "White Gas". If that means Coleman fuel, there may be a problem...
  In the mid 1970's I had the need to run a large outboard motor on Colman fuel. When mixed with the appropriate oil the fuel worked fine.
  Several years later I had  a prolem trying to run a Coleman catalytic heater on new Coleman fuel. It just would not work. As near as I could determine
  the Coleman fuel had been changed to Naptha. At that point, I found another way to solve my immediate problem and never revisted the Coleman fuel
  question. 
  The point: Better seek recent experience with Coleman fule before counting on it!

  John Ferrell  W8CCW
   
  "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."
  -Barry Goldwater
  "You don't get harmony when everybody sings the same note."
  -Doug Floyd

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bill Glaze 
    To: General pattern discussion 
    Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 10:06 AM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet


    We used to use NOTHING BUT white gas in our engines--with a mix of  70 wt. oil (also called by some, differential grease) at ratio of 3/1 or 4/1.  I'm talking about ignition Ohlsson .60's and .23's as well as all the other contemporary engines.  Long time ago.
    Bill Glaze
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bob Richards 
      To: General pattern discussion 
      Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:32 AM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet


            I remember reading (Clarence Lee, I think) that detonation due to lower octane is not a problem in the smaller engines. Something about flame propogation...  Of course, this is the same person that said for years to use low nitro, low percentage oil in four-strokes, and also not to run them inverted. :-)  Of course, I've known people to use white gas in their ignition engines and never have a problem.

            I've been told NOT to use 100LL fuel. Again, there are people using it seemingly without problems. 

            I've heard so much conflicting information that I don't know what to believe. Unless I can run the engine with some on-board sensors to measure the performance, temps, etc, I think I'll stick with the manufacturer's recommendation.

            --- On Fri, 11/20/09, brett terry <brett.terry at gmail.com> wrote:


              From: brett terry <brett.terry at gmail.com>
              Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet
              To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
              Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:13 PM


              Some people use it, and it smells good.  However it has an octane rating of somewhere around a 66-69.  This will almost guarantee detonation problems on a pipe.




              On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Wayne Galligan <wgalligan at att.net> wrote:

                Anyone use white gas?  And does it have the same power as regular gasoline just not all the additives?

                Wayne Galligan


                ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: rcmaster199 at aol.com 
                  To: patterndude at tx.rr.com ; nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
                  Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 6:10 PM
                  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Activities for a Sunday ,, was Too Quiet


                  Avgas..... Pleasant smell. A little pricy at 4.95$ per gallon. (VBG)






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