[NSRCA-discussion] WRAP UP - Advancement

[mike mueller]

 While I agree with the spirit of what your saying Mark there is a rule in place and we have to abide by it until it's officially changed.
 As the interim NSRCA D5VP I will work within the system to accomodate anyone who wants to drop down a class in D5. John's email conveys the system that exists in black and white. We want to help those that need it here. Kind of like our version of a stimulus package.
 I hope that the rule can be changed sooner than later. Mike

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:

> From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WRAP UP - Advancement
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 9:26 AM
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> I’m in favor of it being
> a guideline, but I don’t think that verbiage
> belongs in the rule book.  That’s best left for
> the NSRCA web site or some
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> As for moving down,
> that’s sort of the whole point.  To allow
> people to choose where they want to fly, up or down the
> classes as their time,
> skill, etc allows.   By nature you have to be
> competitive to enjoy this facet
> of the hobby.  If you find yourself in a situation
> where you are no longer
> competitive, (again, lack of time, money, skill, etc) then
> most will simply get
> frustrated and quit.  I’d much prefer to see
> someone take a step backward, and
> continue to have a rewarding experience, than to lose them
> from the sport. 
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> Behalf Of Ron
> Hansen
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:01 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WRAP UP -
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> I’m in favor of making
> advancement a guideline.  Perhaps we need to
> cover advancement as part of good sportsmanship and maybe
> include the ability
> for the district to vote on whether someone is abusing the
> absence of a
> mandatory advancement rule.  For example, leave it to
> the discretion of the
> District VP or a majority vote of the district
> members.  If the district
> decides someone needs to move up the competitor would have
> the option to stay
> where he or she is and not qualify for prizes and district
> points or move up at
> the end of the year. 
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> What about the ability to move
> down?  For example, someone tries
> Masters for one or two contests and then decides they are
> still not ready and
> wants to move back down.  Do the current rules
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] WRAP UP -
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> ago when the Sportsman sequence was rather short, some
> CD's
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> written to codify the
> practice, and provide suggested procedures on exit/entry
> between the sequences,
> and handle scoring of one take off & landing, but two
> sequences.  It's
> still in the book,  para 14.8.   Given
> current length of
> Sportsman sequence, it's rarely used.
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> Ron Lockhart
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> CD's used to have the ability
> to have Sportsman fly twice which
> isn't in the rule book.  They now can have an
> Expert class which isn't in
> the rule book.  Can CD's suspend the advancement
> rule?  Just thinking
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> Interesting question. The AMA
> gives CDs broad powers to waive
> rules as they see fit, but those usually pertain to the
> safe operation of a
> contest. The caveat is that the CD must publish any
> variations within 30 days
> of the event and it is best to list them in the sanction
> application. Changes
> can be made on the spot due to weather, etc., but it would
> be hard to see how
> advancement fits into that. So I suspect taht it would be
> difficult for a CD to
> do waht you suggest. What a CD could do I suppose is to
> allow a certain
> individual to fly a lower class, but again, that might be a
> stretch.
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