[NSRCA-discussion] Nats Schedule Clarification

Tue Jul 7 22:21:11 AKDT 2009

So Ron, let me ask you this. The personnel had to slide an hour. What's the difference in the long run? The flight time for Masters and FAI is still the same overall. If FAI started an hour later, what's the big deal? I see that last year FAI had 35 people (and flew first), and we didn't run over much that I can remember. Masters this year has 38 (and has to fly first). I don't get it. 
Don't get me wrong, I will fly in the afternoon wind with no problem again this year. I just don't understand why it is different than previous years. 
Perhaps FAI can't fly in the wind?     Just kidding guys! Don't take that seriously. You guys will stomp on my next year I'm sure! lol I know that you guys are the sickest pilots on the planet!!!!!!!!

Just someone explain the logic that we had 35 FAI last year fly first, and this year 38 (if they all show) Masters pilots can't fly first. 

This is good discussion IMO. Only reason I am keeping it going! lol

Thanks!

Chris          

--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:

From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats Schedule Clarification
To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:49 AM

Yes, the Master class ran until almost 1:00 P.M. one year and we had to let the afternoon session slide about an hour to let the site personnel have time for a break.  Also keep in mind that weather can disrupt the schedule and fewer competitors in the morning session gives the event director some "wiggle room" on the schedule.

Ron VP

On Jul 6, 2009, at 9:05 AM, krishlan fitzsimmons wrote:

> Seeing as this is my second year going, I don't know that much obviously about it. How did it work before with Masters flying the am? Did Masters run over? Just curious as it seems like we are down on pilots from last year. Not sure about how many pilots there were 2 years ago..
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> Thanks!
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> Chris
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> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com> wrote:
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> From: Atwood, Mark <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats Schedule Clarification
> To: "'nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 6:55 AM
> 
> Keep in mind that a masters flight takes several minutes longer than an FAI flight.  An extra 2-3 min per flight is another hour to 2 hours, and 8 extra guys is another 80 min.  It adds up fast.
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> Doesn't leave much room for error.
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> I'd be good either way. I'm not sure there's an advantage, its just nice to know what to expect.
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> There is 38 Masters and 30 Fai. Not sure where the thinking changes from previous years. Wasn't it about the same two years ago when Masters flew in the am?
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> Chris
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> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
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> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats Schedule Clarification
> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 6:28 AM
> 
> 
> Yes.  Take it up with Dave Guerin.  I understand his logic.  The
> Master class is the biggest class.  If it is flown in the morning,
> flying can (and has) run into the afternoon, disrupting the afternoon
> schedule.  If it's flown in the afternoon, flying can continue as
> long as there's light and no other competitions are affected.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:15 AM, mike mueller wrote:
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> >
> >  Ron isn't it traditional for this schedule to rotate from year to
> > year? Mike
> >
> > --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats Schedule Clarification
> >> To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >> Date: Sunday, July 5, 2009, 9:50 PM
> >> It is my understanding that it's the
> >> same as last year:  Advanced/F3A
> >> in the morning and Intermediate/Master in the afternoon.
> >>
> >> Ron VP
> >>
> >> On Jul 5, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Dave wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just one more......which classes are AM/PM this year?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Ron
> >>> Van Putte
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:52 PM
> >>> To: General pattern discussion
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats Schedule
> >> Clarification
> >>>
> >>> For Intermediate, Advanced and Master class,
> >> each pilot flies two
> >>> flights per day on Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday.
> >> Intermediate and
> >>> Advanced are done on Thursday.  The top Master
> >> class pilots fly
> >>> Finals on Friday.  The F3A Prelims are
> >> Tuesday/Wednesday (two flights
> >>> per day); Semifinals are on Thursday ; Finals are on
> >> Friday.
> >>>
> >>> Ron Van Putte
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:38 PM, brian young wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I was wanting a clarification on the schedule. My
> >> agenda says check
> >>>> in on Monday 13, Prelims begin all classes 13-15,
> >> Pilots meeting
> >>>> Monday 13th at 5 PM. FAI Unkowns Meeting the 16th,
> >> Finals Friday
> >>>> 17th.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On the back it says Monday is practice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> So prelims are Tuesday - Wednesday? Finals Friday?
> >> Thursday is
> >>>> open...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just checking.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Brian
> >>>>
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