[NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

Tue Jan 27 09:56:51 AKST 2009

Thanks Ron,

It will become evident as you read that I'm not a printing expert.  What
would you anticipate the cost of a simplified-KFactor to be (Less
priority on the binded look and format, printed out on normal paper, and
then mailed out - more like a newsletter and no so much like a magazine,
perhaps)? 

Thanks,

Jim

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron
Davies
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:23 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor Poll

Jim and any interested parties:

There is not a contract in place for printing the K-Factor.

Postage and printing is paid separately.  

Postage for the February 2009 K-Factor is $602.41.  The January 2009
cost of the K-Factor not including postage is $2,373.80.  

I will provide you a cost break out of the K-Factor.  Please give me a
few days as my main computer with all the information is in the repair
shop.  

Ron Davies

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Woodward, Jim (US SSA)
<mailto:jim.woodward at baesystems.com>  

	To: General pattern discussion
<mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

	Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:19 AM

	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll

	Hi Guys,

	Can someone please repost the K-Factor cost break out?  Here are
some questions I have about the publication:

	1.       Is there a contract in place for printing the K-Factor
(if so, who is the contract with)?

	2.       Are the postage and printing paid for separately, or
lumped together?

	10,000 words were sent to the list regarding whether to go
digital or keep the hard copy, but I didn't see the information
discussing the current cost structure.

	Thanks,

	Jim

	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward,
Jim (US SSA)
	Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:10 AM
	To: General pattern discussion
	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll

	It costs $2100/month to print and mail out the K-Factor the way
we do it now?   What is the primary cost driver, format or postage?

	Thanks,

	Jim

	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dennis
Bodary
	Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:41 PM
	To: General pattern discussion
	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll

The poll did not include a 50/50 mix. I would'nt mind a bimonthly
K-Factor and could live with an electronic version every other month.

Makes me wonder how much advertising might be lost on a all electronic
version. 

--- On Sat, 1/24/09, Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:

	From: Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll
	To: "'General pattern discussion'"
<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
	Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 12:19 PM

	It's a lot easier to allow for a "pull" of the K-Factor versus a
	"push" of
	it... Pushing it means that we'd clock up the internet traffic
lanes.  You
	will receive a reminder email that it is available. 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
	[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
Jeff Hatton
	Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:01 AM
	To: General pattern discussion
	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll

	The electronic copy to download is good, but I would prefer at
least a
	reminder Email when a new one becomes available,  and the option
to have it
	attached to the email would be even better.

	Jay Marshall wrote:
	> You might want to upgrade your printer Ron. I have a 8 year
old HP 970 
	> that prints both sides automatically. The real issue might be
cost. 
	> What would it cost in ink to print a complete K-Factor in
color on my 
	> printer vs the cost to have NSRCA print it? I can't carry my
desktop
	to
	the throne room.
	> 
	> Jay Marshall
	> 
	> -----Original Message-----
	> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
	> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
Ron Van 
	> Putte
	> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:42 AM
	> To: General pattern discussion
	> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper
K-Factor Poll
	> 
	> I like a paper copy, so I'd print it out to take it out to my
hobby 
	> shop or the "throne room".  It is against my Scottish
background
	to 
	> just print out a file one side only.  I'd like to print both
sides of 
	> the paper.  If we decide to go with an electronic K-Factor
only, it 
	> would be nice to have the PDF files arranged so, if we had a
6-page K- 
	> Factor, we could print out pages 1, 3, and 5, remove the
sheets from 
	> the printer, flip over the sheets, reinsert the pages in the
printer
	> and print out pages 2, 4 and 6 on the back of the respective
pages.   
	> I know I could do it one page at a time with what we have now,
but, 
	> with a 32-page K-Factor, that's a lot of shuffling around.
	> 
	> Ron Van Putte
	> 
	> On Jan 24, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:
	> 
	>   
	>> Optional when one renews - if we can work out the pricing
details on 
	>> the paper only version.
	>> 
	>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-

	>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Joe
Lachowski
	>> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:11 AM
	>> To: NSRCA Discussion List
	>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper
K-Factor Poll
	>> 
	>> I guess having the option to choose which way you want it
when you 
	>> renew is out?
	>> 
	>> I read it as an all or nothing kind of thing.
	>> 
	>> 
	>> 
	>> From: derekkoopowitz at gmail.com
	>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
	>> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:41:30 -0800
	>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Electronic versus Paper K-Factor
Poll
	>> 
	>> 
	>> On the NSRCA website - http://www.nsrca.us - there is a poll
that 
	>> we'd like everyone to participate in.
	>> There are two options on the poll:
	>> 1.  NSRCA Membership with electronic K-Factor only 2.  NSRCA 
	>> Membership with paper K-Factor The board would like to find
out the 
	>> level of interest of everyone (NSRCA members and others) as
to 
	>> whether they would prefer to receive their K-Factor
electronically or 
	>> whether they'd like to receive it as a paper copy (as it is
done 
	>> currently).  Pricing on each type of membership is unknown at
this 
	>> time, however, we believe that the electronic only membership
would 
	>> probably result in dues that are less than the paper K-Factor

	>> membership.
	>> Please pass this email on to others that may not be connected
to this 
	>> list - you do not have to be an NSRCA member to participate
in this 
	>> poll.
	>> 
	>> HotmailR goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your
phone. See 
	>> how.
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