[NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business

Fri Jan 16 08:09:05 AKST 2009

Gray,
 My understanding of why we try to move the wheels as close to the C.G as possible is to increase yaw stability on the ground (decrease the tendency to ground loop). Tail draggers are inherently unstable because the landing gear is located in front of the C.G. Since we don't have brakes on modern Pattern planes, the wheels can be pretty far back without causing much of a problem. Especially on smooth surfaces. The closer you place the wheels to the nose of the airplane (further ahead of the C.G.), the more tendency there is to ground loop. Also, it sometimes makes it hard to get the plane to rotate if the wheels are too far forward. 
If Pattern planes were designed with the gear location further back, we wouldn't need swept gear.

John Pavlick

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Gray E Fowler <gfowler at raytheon.com> wrote:

From: Gray E Fowler <gfowler at raytheon.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] BOLLY out of business
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Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:37 PM

Why do you prefer sweep?

Gray Fowler
Senior Principal Chemical Engineer
Radomes and Specialty Apertures
Technical Staff Composites Engineering
Raytheon 

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If I were to complain about anything on Matt's gear (I'm not) I would prefer a little sweep which would preclude 'a one side fits both" arrangement.  How are most of you guys mounting them--two or three bolts? I've been using three 4-40s but just bought one and the former owner had two per side.

RS

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Anthony 

What did you think about the ES gear twist? That is the wheel going toe in- toe out hitting small bumps. ES had nothing but zero degree fibers. That is the one design issue I am conteplating at the moment. 

Also considering that all new planes are widebody that is what needs to be addressed..BUT having a 1 continuous gear will be more weight. I am thinking it is better to split the gear for a weight savings.  If we make two pieces, and either piece can be a left or a right, then a broken gear is only on one side. Any advantage to that?

Gray Fowler
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Radomes and Specialty Apertures
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Raytheon 

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Graph Tech is not for us. I am sure their stuff is well suited for the IMAC style planes that they are designed for but too heavy and way too stiff for our use. 
I went through their website and picked a gear based on dimension of the ES. 2+ ounces heavier and twice as thick with zero flex. Broke the gear out of my Black Magic many times when hitting small holes in the runway. Rick donated his ES gear and life has been much better. 

Anthony

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:59:26 -0500
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Anyone have any luck with the Graph Tech RC stuff?  Only experience was with some smaller electrics that worked just fine. They have carbon pants and spinners, as well.

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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:00:23 -0500
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Thanks, Jim.  Those are $112.00 I think… about double that of the Bolly…. Not sure how that will go….. but if there are no other choices… 

Tony Stillman, President 
Radio South, Inc. 
139 Altama Connector, Box 322 
Brunswick, GA  31525 
1-800-962-7802 
www.radiosouthrc.com 

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Tony, 

Luiz at Net Box Hobby carrys the CA carbon gear. 

Thanks, 
Jim 
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I just received conformation that BOLLY has gone out of business.  Unfortunately, this is a major supplier of CF landing gear and wheel pants.  I have been awaiting a shipment of several items, and now it does not look like that will happen.  I am working now to determine if there are any gear/wheel pants available.   

The really bad thing is that I am not sure what options we have left, other than going with a kit/arf manufacturer’s gear.  Ed Skorpa dropped his gear last year… 

Tony Stillman, President 
Radio South, Inc. 
139 Altama Connector, Box 322 
Brunswick, GA  31525 
1-800-962-7802 
www.radiosouthrc.com 

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