[NSRCA-discussion] Happy New Year

[rcmaster199 at aol.com]

I see no conflict here. The word "should" regarding altitude can be 
used for many TA maneuvers (perhaps most) not just the Sprtsman 
Straight out, Stall, Straight back. If they are the same, fine....if 
different, I see no reason for downgrade. Under current rules, these 
are independent maneuvers therefore the same rules apply to them as do 
any other series of 3 maneuvers.

My earlier post was in regard to entry of the TA....contrary to some 
folks belief, entry of the TA must be at the same altitude of the S&L 
preceding it. Exit altitude is pilot's option.

MattK

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Cronkhite <seefo at san.rr.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Happy New Year

Great.. so the judging guide conflicts with itself even.

Maneuver 3 states that since the stall turn (a turnaround maneuver) is
between straight flight out and straight flight back, it's entry and
exit altitude should be the same.

Then in maneuver 5, there is a specific note that since the 1/2 reverse
cuban 8 is a turnaround maneuver, its entry and exit altitude may 
differ.

IF the straight flight out, turnaround, and straight flight back were 1
maneuver as they used to be (SFO, procedure turn, SFB) the the relative
altitude would be a judging criteria. However, since these are 3
separate maneuvers, the performance of one maneuver MAY NOT be used as 
a
judging criteria for another. To quote another part of the judging 
handbook:

"*Be independent*. Ignore the scores of other judges. Do not converse
about scores. Score each maneuver on its individual value. Dismiss
consideration of each maneuver as soon as you record its score."

Doug




J N Hiller wrote:
>
> I said I was finished once but you guys are having way too much
> trouble with this turnaround altitude issue.
>
> Here is the link to the NSRCA Judging Section. Just click on 
Sportsman.
>
> http://nsrca.us/judginghome.html
>
> Jim
>
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