[NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes

[Glen Watson]

Mark is spot on, a well trimmed/setup 90 class pattern aircraft plus a well
practiced/prepared competitor is just as competitive in Sportsman ->
Advanced as a 2 meter aircraft/competitor.  No need to change the rules
competitors should consider this route as an alternative to keeping cost
down when if $$$'s are an issue.  Worked for me in my early pattern days I
flew a 60 size Jekyll powered by a YS 91 against 2 meter aircraft with
success.

 

However peer pressure is hard to deal with on the flight line when you're
not rolling with the 2 meter big dogs.

 

Best regards,

 

Glen Watson

http://glenwatson.blogspot.com/

 

 

 

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hunt
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:12 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes

 

Want to reduce cost....make the maximum weight in AMA 9lbs.

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From: Archie <mailto:astafford at swtexas.net>  Stafford 

To: 'General pattern discussion' <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 16:30

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes

 

Very simple statement.  Open your checkbook if this passes.  Big 2 meter
bipes will be the norm.  YS will come out with a 50CC size engine that blows
away other gas or Nitro setups, and much bigger, more powerful electric
setups to remain competitive.  People thing this would reduce the cost, it
will do exactly the opposite.  You are right Dave, there is no competitive
advantage to a plane of the size we are flying now being 11 1/2lbs, but be
able to build a 13lb bipe with unlimited power and watch what happens.

 

Arch

 

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Bill Glaze
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 5:16 PM
To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes

 

Yep!  I've got a G-62 laying around here that I have no use for--until now.

Bill

----- Original Message ----- 

From: John Pavlick <mailto:jpavlick at idseng.com>  

To: General pattern discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:47 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes

 


Excellent! Looks like I can finally build a gas-powered biplane. LOL

 

John Pavlick

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:


From: Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Weight limit in AMA classes
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:38 PM

I have submitted a rules proposal to completely eliminate the 11 lb. Weight
limit in AMA pattern classes. (proposal 11-11).
I'd like to see some discussion on the pros and cons of this proposal on the
NSRCA e-mail list and the Pattern forum.

My reasons for submitting the proposal include the following points:

1. There is no competitive advantage to a heavier plane with the 2 meter
size constraint (in fact I'd argue a heavier plane is usually at a
disadvantage and perhaps a minimum weight makes more sense than a maximum)
2. The 2 meter size constraint is sufficient keep the weight of pattern
planes to reasonable limits.
3. The fact that AMA class planes are weighed only at the US Nationals gives
proof that the rule is not now enforced and not needed.
4. The 11 lb. Weight limit drives up the cost of pattern planes through the
necessary use of more expensive high tech materials. (If you don't believe
"light weight" cost a lot of money ask the people who race sail boats)
5. Removing the weight limit will reduce the manpower and cost associated
with running the Nationals And also perhaps increase participation.

OK, guys, what do you think?
What other "pro" and "con" points?
Dave Burton




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