[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

[Gene Maurice]

ONLY if they have taken the appropriate precautions, per the PCI Data
Security Standards. Again, those security precautions are for YOUR
protection. It's your identity!!! 

 

 

Gene Maurice

Plano, TX

AMA 3408 NSRCA 877

PACSS.sgmservice.com

gene.maurice at sgmservice.com

 

 

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Strickland
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:41 AM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

They SHOULD be able to hold on to them.  It's the crooks that are the
problem.
RS



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From: jlkonn at hotmail.com
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:26:09 -0600
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

Robert,
I am often troubled by some of our suppliers.
I've had them read my card and 3 digit security number back to me before I
have given it to them.
They've kept it from my last order!  Needless to say I always express my
extreme dissatisfaction.
I'm sure it's like water off a duck's back.  About the only thing we can do
is "vote with our
feet" and not do business with these types.
JLK




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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:20:52 -0700
From: rob at koolsoft.com
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised




Its pretty stupid.  There is no reason to store credit card numbers at all.
I write software for online stores and such and the number is processed, and
never saved.  Only the transaction ID and the last 4 digits of the card for
the customer benefit for future reference.

 

Every year I have to fill out one of those PCI survey's for each of my
customers that take credit cards and answer N/A to most of the questions
because they deal with storage of card numbers.  Why on earth would any
company want to take on that kind of risk?

 

- Robert Beaubien

- NSRCA, District 7 Webmaster

-

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dave Burton
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:16 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

I'll make you a bet that 95+% of small businesses don't know about much less
follow the standards.

The bad guys hit my account too but the bank fraud control unit called to
alert me and resolved it with a new account number.

Dave Burton

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Gene Maurice
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:56 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

Credit card information is suppose to be encrypted and secured. There is an
organization PCI (Payment Card Industry) who has issued a Data Security
Standard that "mandates" certain security measures be implemented if you
deal with CC payments.  

Quote: PCI DSS requirements are applicable if a Primary Account Number (PAN)
is stored, processed, or

transmitted.

 

The standards further states, quote:

 Do not store sensitive authentication data subsequent to authorization
(even if encrypted).

 

And, quote: 

Render PAN, at minimum, unreadable anywhere it is stored (including data on
portable digital

media, backup media, in logs, and data received from or stored by wireless
networks) by using

any of the following approaches:

. Strong one-way hash functions (hashed indexes)

. Truncation

. Index tokens and pads (pads must be securely stored)

. Strong cryptography with associated key management processes and
procedures.

 

Sounds like FMA ain't following the standard......

 

Gene Maurice

Plano, TX

AMA 3408 NSRCA 877

PACSS.sgmservice.com

gene.maurice at sgmservice.com

 

 

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:42 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

This is the reason I use "one time" credit card numbers from Shop Safe where
you specify the max amount and a valid period. I have never understood why
credit card numbers must remain on a database after they have cleared. They
ought to be encoded also!

 

 

Jay Marshall 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of MKMSG
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:15 AM
To: NSRCA Discussion List
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

If any of you have recently bought products on line from FMA Direct using a
credit card, check your credit card account.  FMA's database has been
compromised/hacked and whoever has the information is making charges against
the credit cards.  I read this in the electric forum on Ezonemag.com.
Sure enough, when I brought up my VISA account, there was a NAPSTER charge
there so I cancelled the card.  You might want to check yours if you've done
business on line with FMA recently.

 

Mike

 

 

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