[NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

Robert L. Beaubien rob at koolsoft.com
Wed Nov 19 07:20:56 AKST 2008


Its pretty stupid.  There is no reason to store credit card numbers at
all.  I write software for online stores and such and the number is
processed, and never saved.  Only the transaction ID and the last 4
digits of the card for the customer benefit for future reference.

 

Every year I have to fill out one of those PCI survey's for each of my
customers that take credit cards and answer N/A to most of the questions
because they deal with storage of card numbers.  Why on earth would any
company want to take on that kind of risk?

 

- Robert Beaubien

- NSRCA, District 7 Webmaster

-

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dave
Burton
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 9:16 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

I'll make you a bet that 95+% of small businesses don't know about much
less follow the standards.

The bad guys hit my account too but the bank fraud control unit called
to alert me and resolved it with a new account number.

Dave Burton

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Gene
Maurice
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 10:56 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

Credit card information is suppose to be encrypted and secured. There is
an organization PCI (Payment Card Industry) who has issued a Data
Security Standard that "mandates" certain security measures be
implemented if you deal with CC payments.  

Quote: PCI DSS requirements are applicable if a Primary Account Number
(PAN) is stored, processed, or

transmitted.

 

The standards further states, quote:

 Do not store sensitive authentication data subsequent to authorization
(even if encrypted).

 

And, quote: 

Render PAN, at minimum, unreadable anywhere it is stored (including data
on portable digital

media, backup media, in logs, and data received from or stored by
wireless networks) by using

any of the following approaches:

* Strong one-way hash functions (hashed indexes)

* Truncation

* Index tokens and pads (pads must be securely stored)

* Strong cryptography with associated key management processes and
procedures.

 

Sounds like FMA ain't following the standard..............

 

Gene Maurice

Plano, TX

AMA 3408 NSRCA 877

PACSS.sgmservice.com

gene.maurice at sgmservice.com

 

 

 

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Jay
Marshall
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 7:42 AM
To: 'General pattern discussion'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

This is the reason I use "one time" credit card numbers from Shop Safe
where you specify the max amount and a valid period. I have never
understood why credit card numbers must remain on a database after they
have cleared. They ought to be encoded also!

 

 

Jay Marshall 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of MKMSG
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 12:15 AM
To: NSRCA Discussion List
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FMA Database Compromised

 

If any of you have recently bought products on line from FMA Direct
using a credit card, check your credit card account.  FMA's database has
been compromised/hacked and whoever has the information is making
charges against the credit cards.  I read this in the electric forum on
Ezonemag.com.    Sure enough, when I brought up my VISA account, there
was a NAPSTER charge there so I cancelled the card.  You might want to
check yours if you've done business on line with FMA recently.

 

Mike

	 

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