[NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list

[Snaproll4 at aol.com]

I agree with Lance on both points.  Jim is a great guy who  passionately 
supports pattern and would never come down hard on anyone.   The similarities 
between NSRCA and public radio are obvious.  This list is  not free.  There is no 
advertising and it is supported by the dues and  volunteerism of the members.
 
In order to take the heat off of Jim, I 'm going to start a thread on the  
definition of a snap roll or mandatory class advancement.
 
Steve Miller  #673
 
 
In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:13:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
patterndude at tx.rr.com writes:

I have  to put in my small $.02 for anyone still following this thread. 
Having  only an impression of a person by email is limited and we all bear 
this  risk when we make statements.  Jim Quinn, in person, is a super  
friendly, gracious nice guy.  He came to the Nats as an observer and  became 
the daily reporter and did a great job.  His work as an  officer is for all 
our benefit.  I'm sure he is apalled at the larger  response that his 
comments received and would reword them if he  could.  I haven't talked to 
Jim about this but back when I was an  officer he and I chatted often.  I 
know he is simply promoting  membership and reminding people of the 
similarities between this and  public radio.  Our organization needs to pay 
its way so if you are  getting value from the "list" or attending contests or 
whatever, then for  the price of a throttle servo you can do your part to 
support the  organization.

I agree the way he did it this one time was not ideal,but  since most people 
don't know Jim I thought someone had to make a plea to  all to let this go. 
He's too modest to become defensive  himself.

--Lance
Former VP

----- Original Message -----  
From: "Daniel McLalin" <dmclalin at gmail.com>
To: "General pattern  discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May  14, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who  can use the list


> You must all realize that there are a lot of  people following these
> emails who have not ever asked a question or  comment AND who are not
> NSRCA members.  I am an example of  this.  I have been on the e-mail
> mailing list for over 2 years  and have used all of your valuable
> information to educate myself. I am  not a member of NSRCA because I am
> still learning to fly and am not  ready to participate in any pattern
> competitions.  I am an AMA  member.
>
> I have met several of you at pattern competitions and  have always been
> impressed on how friendly and anxious you are at  helping us newbees
> and welcoming our interest in not just pattern but  RC itself.
>
> This is the first time I have ever come across a  negative comment from
> a member to a non-member (that wasn't in jest -  of course). I was
> surprised for sure but not put off by Jim Quinn's  response to Colin.
>
> So I repeat, many people read your  comments.  Saying something in text
> stays out there for a very  long time.
>
> My 2 cents.
>
> Dan  McLalin
>
> On 5/13/08, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>  wrote:
>> John is correct.  For MANY years, AMA ran the R/C  Aerobatics events
>> (often badly).  When NSRCA petitioned to  run our events, AMA agreed
>> reluctantly.  However after the  first couple of Nats, AMA got used to
>> it and encouraged other SIGs  to run their events.  Now I don't think
>> any events are run by  AMA personnel.  However, it should be
>> recognized that the  Nats are an AMA event and we just administer our
>> events in  accordance with AMA rules.
>>
>> Ron Van  Putte
>>
>> On May 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, John Ferrell  wrote:
>>
>> > The Nats are not an NSRCA event. The Nats  are an AMA event.
>> > I expect most of those who work so hard at  the Nats are members of
>> > both AMA
>> > and NSRCA  it is important that we not lose track of who pays what
>> > bills  and
>> > who provides what resources...
>>  >
>> > John Ferrell    W8CCW
>>  >
>> > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for  good men to do
>> > nothing." -- Edmund Burke
>> >  http://DixieNC.US
>> >
>> >
>> >> I  think it would be a shame if the NSRCA got frustrated and locked
>>  >> out
>> >> foreigners from the US Nats, the K-Factor,  the NSRCA email list etc.
>> >> All of us directly and  indirectly benefit from this organization
>> >> and  we
>> >> should support if our situations allow.
>>  >>
>> >> So I encourage all the Canadians reading this  list who are not
>> >> members
>> >> to support  the NSRCA.
>> >>
>> >> Chad
>>  >
>> >
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