[NSRCA-discussion] Interesting

Sat Mar 29 14:07:20 AKDT 2008

Exactly right....   As soon as the growth starts to slow to a point that meets the total available storage capacity of
carbon,  the the oxygen output declines... In other words, it has to have considerable growth to keep producing the
oxygen.  But, on the other hand, it still stores the CO2 till death...  
Or, till I meet up with it!  LOL   
The "old growth" that you are talking about is too decedent to provide much more than carbon storage...  The problem is
these stands of massive trees are decaying to point that most of this carbon is being released to the atmosphere.  The 
average decay in the northwest, of old growth, is around 50% by volume...  The decayed portions have released the 
carbon and is rotting to the ground.  I pretty much work on private ground, cutting stands that contain these big trees, and
I can tell you that they are getting worse, exponentially....  There's a big difference in decay between now and back in
the 80's....

Rex 

From: mjfrederick at cox.netTo: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.orgDate: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:45:43 -0500Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Interesting

Funny stuff, Rex. My brother was a timber buyer for Weyerhauser for about 10 years before deciding to join the Jesuits, and he dealt with the same kind of ignorance all the time. One thing many people don't realize is that there are more trees on the planet now than there has ever been (thanks totally to the timber industry), and that all these "old growth" forests people always complain about cutting down really aren't doing anyone any good other than being aesthetically pleasing... old trees consume more oxygen than they produce! He told me recently on average, a tree will begin doing that after 15-20 years.

Matt

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I'm glad to hear the mention of wood....  I've been falling timber for twenty years or so.You wouldn't believe the range of comments I get from people.  A while back, I was comingout of one of the local stores, in my work garb...  next to the market is one of these "backto nature" type stores that ships worldwide.  They had just expanded by about 50,000 sq. ft....One of their employees made a comment to me about wondering why I still had a job, killingour forests...  I asked her if she liked working in that new building?  And, did she notice thebrand on the lumber used in building the space she loved so much?  Then I told her that I cutthe timber that made the lumber used in her building...  Then I told her she was welcome, and walked off!  She looked like a deer in the headlights! Rex

From: vicenterc at comcast.netTo: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org; nsrca-discussion at lists.f3a.usDate: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:10:40 +0000Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Interesting
Wood is considered carbon neutral.  In other worlds,  if you send that scrap wood to the landfill will decompose and produce CO2 also.   Wood also displace fossil fuel and our dependence of foreign oils.   

--Vicente "Vince" Bortone

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But Vince, what about the CO2

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Talking about renewable energy.  I am working in a project to use biomass fuel to produce steam.  This project will use scrap wood to replace natural gas.  I am originally from Venezuela.  As you can guess, I will do everything to avoid buying oil from Hugo Chavez.

--Vicente "Vince" Bortone

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