[NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
vicenterc at comcast.net
vicenterc at comcast.net
Mon Jun 16 06:22:36 AKDT 2008
I suggest that we stop this discussion IMAC vs Pattern. Both groups have the same interest and love for RC acrobatics.
Regards,
--
Vicente "Vince" Bortone
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From: "Courtney, Gary Ray" <grcourtney at tva.gov>
> Does that include you?
>
> gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward,
> Jim (US SSA)
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:04 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
> Gary,
>
> Where do you think IMAC got a lot of its top flyers? (drum roll)
> disenfranchised pattern guys fill the ranks.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Courtney,
> Gary Ray
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:07 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
>
> IMAC-- It was once said( person unnamed) "the IMAC influence is what's
> wrong with pattern"
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward,
> Jim (US SSA)
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:48 AM
> To: General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
> Guys,
>
> I thought the FAI changes explicitly allowed flick rolls? The rule
> reads, "... fuselage attitude must show a definite break and separation
> from the flight path."
>
> It does not say, "MUST SHOW PITCH BREAK." Please DO NOT ERROUNIOUSLY
> APPLY A PASS/FAIL MAJOR DEDUCTION initial assessment to the snap roll.
> Watch the whole maneuver then render your score.
>
> A break and separation from the flight path simply means that the nose
> and tail of the plane must rotate in a conical fashion about the fight
> axis. Yaw, roll, and pitch can all break at the same moment if that is
> how the pilot does it.
>
> Hey :) some really handsome smart guy wrote some stuff at this link
> below about snap rolls to help clarify how they are done in IMAC.
>
> http://www.mini-iac.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=77
>
> thanks,
> Jim
>
>
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ken
> Thompson
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:47 PM
> To: Ken Thompson; General pattern discussion
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
> How'd I do?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Thompson"
> To: "General pattern discussion"
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
>
>
> > That would be the first part...after that better be the tail forming a
>
> > cone, or else...no it wouldn't be a snap;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "JShulman"
> > To: "General pattern discussion"
> > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
> >
> >
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> Would you say that if the plane breaks in pitch it is a snap?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jason
> >> www.jasonshulman.com
> >> www.shulmanaviation.com
> >> www.composite-arf.com
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
> >> Thompson
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:36 PM
> >> To: General pattern discussion
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
> >>
> >>
> >> LOL!!! I'll be waiting in the wings to read the comments :-)
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "JShulman"
> >> To: "General pattern discussion"
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:22 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
> >>
> >>
> >>> Must be even closer to the Nats... after this is Spins...lol.
> >>>
> >>> Are we talking shoulder rolling or straight rolling?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Jason
> >>> www.jasonshulman.com
> >>> www.shulmanaviation.com
> >>> www.composite-arf.com
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ken
> >>> Thompson
> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:24 PM
> >>> To: johnfuqua at embarqmail.com; General pattern discussion
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> How can it be a snap if no pitch or break is shown?
> >>>
> >>> And yes...I know this comment is setting up a serious discussion :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "John Fuqua"
> >>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
> >>> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:18 PM
> >>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Snap entry in FAI
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> For those FAI pilots at the Harvest contest this weekend who took
> the
> >>>> position that the airplane need no longer show pitch or break to
> enter
> >>>> the
> >>>> snap I invite you to para 5B.7.5 of the FAI rule book. Looks to me
>
> >>>> like
> >>>> the
> >>>> only change is that a zero is no longer appropriate but a mandatory
> >>>> downgrade of more than 5 points is.
> >>>>
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