[NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for foamy's?

Mark Atwood atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
Mon Jul 14 11:34:43 AKDT 2008


Will the bat wingskin versions also come in Mint green??  And do you also
sell a special O-Ring balancer?  How about an anodized O-ring removal tool?


On 7/14/08 3:27 PM, "JEREMY CHINN" <lagrue at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I'll be manufacturing some new prop retainers made from bat wingskin. They are
> only made from the most select South American fruit bat wing skins and rolled
> by Amazonian tribal members to achieve the highest flexibility and longevity.
> These should surely sate the most discerning pattern pilot's need for the
> highest zoot product made. To ensure their high-zoot-ness, I will be charging
> $30 per retainer.
> Please make checks payable to...........
>  
> On a more serious note, take the stock wobbly adapter O-ring to your auto
> parts store and buy some AirConditioning system O-rings of the same size from
> their assortment. They are mint green and hold the prop on more solidly than a
> standard black O-ring. If you'd rather stick with the standard type, go to
> your hardware store and hit the plumbing section for a cheap replacement
>  
> See ya'll in a week!
> 
> 
>> > From: vanputte at cox.net
>> > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:20:37 -0500
>> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for foamy's?
>> > 
>> > Oops! Should've said: "Maybe John can buy some and send them off to
>> > Tom Koenig in Australia and Tom could send them to you. That ought
>> > to jack the price up to where you'd feel comfortable."
>> > 
>> > Why is there never enough time to do it right, but always enough time
>> > to do it over? Never mind.
>> > 
>> > Ron VP
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Jul 14, 2008, at 2:13 PM, Ron Van Putte wrote:
>> > 
>>> > > Maybe John can buy some and send them off to Tom Koenig in
>>> > > Australia and John could send them to you. That ought to jack the
>>> > > price up to where you'd feel comfortable.
>>> > >
>>> > > Ron VP
>>> > >
>>> > > On Jul 14, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Mark Atwood wrote:
>>> > >
>>>> > >> Hmmm... Are rubber bands considered Pattern ³sexy² though? I
>>>> > >> hate it when something is merely functional...lol
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Is there some place overseas that¹s hard to order from and will
>>>> > >> charge me too much so I can feel better about this purchase?
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On 7/14/08 2:40 PM, "John Konneker" <jlkonn at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> Hey Mark,
>>>>> > >>> If we're talking about F3-P planes on up to about 16 oz I use a
>>>>> > >>> rubber band. I get them by the bag at WalMart.
>>>>> > >>> You have to double or triple the twists but they work really good
>>>>> > >>> and don't dry rot and break after sitting like the
>>>>> > >>> purpose bought ones do.
>>>>> > >>> JLK
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:37:14 -0400
>>>>> > >>> From: atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
>>>>> > >>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> > >>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for foamy's?
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> While we¹re on the o-ring subject, any one have a good part
>>>>> > >>> number for the o-rings we use to hold props on the foamy¹s?
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> -M
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On 7/14/08 8:39 AM, "John Konneker" <jlkonn at hotmail.com <http://
>>>>> > >>> jlkonn at hotmail.com/> > wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>> > >>>> I have about 50 flights on one with no problems.
>>>>>> > >>>> Probably change it just before I leave for the Nats.
>>>>>> > >>>> JLK
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:14:46 -0400
>>>>>> > >>>> From: jim.woodward at baesystems.com <http://
>>>>>> > >>>> jim.woodward at baesystems.com/>
>>>>>> > >>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <http://nsrca-
>>>>>> > >>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org/>
>>>>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Any reports on this McMaster Carr O-ring?
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Jim
>>>>>> > >>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org <http://nsrca-
>>>>>> > >>>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org/> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-
>>>>>> > >>>> bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of vicenterc at comcast.net
>>>>>> > >>>> <http://vicenterc@comcast.net/>
>>>>>> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:42 PM
>>>>>> > >>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Good. Check that O-ring and let us know if works for you.
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>> --
>>>>>> > >>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>>>>>> > >>>>> From: John Konneker <jlkonn at hotmail.com <http://
>>>>>>> > >>>>> jlkonn at hotmail.com/> >
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Yes, it's Viton.
>>>>>>> > >>>>> I got the DVD today. I had forgotten all about it!!!!
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Didn't remember it until I opened the envelope.
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Gettin' old!
>>>>>>> > >>>>> :-)
>>>>>>> > >>>>> JLK
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> From: vicenterc at comcast.net <http://vicenterc@comcast.net/>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <http://nsrca-
>>>>>>> > >>>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org/>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:29:33 +0000
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> John,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Probably is going to work. It gets so hot that the material
>>>>>>> > >>>>> expand and could be OK. Is the material you got Viton?
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>> --
>>>>>>> > >>>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> From: John Konneker <jlkonn at hotmail.com <http://
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> jlkonn at hotmail.com/> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> I got the McMaster Carr ones this evening. They are NOT the
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> same as the originals but they may work.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> The McMC's are slightly larger ID and OD when compared up
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> against what came with the 821 muffler.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> But, when you put it in the muffler it compresses it down to
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> the same friction feel as the Hatori.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> I am going to run it tomorrow and see how it does.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Joe Dunnaway has some US dimensioned "O" rings that work. He
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> will get ahold of a measuring device in the next
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> day or two and let us know what the measurements are.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> JLK
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> From: vicenterc at comcast.net <http://vicenterc@comcast.net/>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <http://nsrca-
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org/>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:56:38 +0000
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> That is 15.47 mm ID and 22.53 OD. It is close to 15 and 22
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> mm. Let us know if works in the long run.
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> Vicente "Vince" Bortone
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -------------- Original message --------------
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: "Richard Lewis" <humptybump at sbcglobal.net <http://
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> humptybump at sbcglobal.net/> >
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I bought 9464K67 from McMaster
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Viton O-Ring, 5/8 x 7/8 (Actual 0.609 I.D. and 0.887 O.D.)
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> They are somewhat harder than the original, but the size
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> seems perfect.
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I¹m using it now, but only have about 10 flights on it. So
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> far so good, no evidence of leaks at all. These also fit the
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> MK tailwheel hub nicely..:)
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> We looked up the metric ones, but I did not think any of the
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> metric dims were close enoughŠLet us know how the metrics
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> work out for you.
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Richard Lewis
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>>>>> <http://nsrca-
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org/> [mailto:nsrca-
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John
Konneker
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:26 PM
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To: General pattern discussion
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I just ordered some of these from McMaster Carr. I should
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> have them tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Maybe someone can comment if these are the ones to use.
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 9263K772 <http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> partnum=9263K772&pagenum=3390> Metric Viton O-Ring 3.5 mm
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Width, 16 mm ID, Packs of 10 (Same as 9263K11)
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> JLK
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:03:39 -0400
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> From: atwoodm at paragon-inc.com
>>>>>>>>> <http://atwoodm@paragon-inc.com/>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org <http://nsrca-
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> discussion at lists.nsrca.org/>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] O-Ring for Hatori Short Pipe
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Can someone direct me to a source (or several) for
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> replacement o-rings to connect the Hatori 821 short pipe to
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> the Hatori 822 header? Central is out of the authentic
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hatori O-rings and won¹t have more for a while. Is there
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> another source, or a suitable replacement available?
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 00:32:00 +0000
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