[NSRCA-discussion] New Planes

Mon Jan 14 07:07:21 AKST 2008

Chris, your right on target!

And when you do get one that is "suppose" to be from a
"good" manufacturer overseas, and it comes apart on
the first flight, for most there simply is no
recourse. That means for a $2800.00 or more investment
you are "SOL". 

I will never again deal with a dealer or vendor
outside the USA. At least if you go through a rep here
in the states you have more of a chance of getting
some satisfaction.

Marty
--- chris moon <cjm767driver at hotmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> I think you are right Ed.  We are falling over
> ourselves to get the
> plane du jour and are willing to accept it as they
> come just to have
> the hot item I guess.  I have no problem with a
> quality kit for $1200,
> but accepting a messed up one that you have to fix
> or redo half of what
> the factory did is just not my idea of a good deal.
> We should demand
> better in my opinion.
> 
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Miller wrote:
> 
>   Plane of the month syndrome, availability of
> planes and our own time to 
> build has brought us to where we are.  We had quite
> a few domestic, quality 
> conscious kit manufacturers at one time, now I think
> we are down just 2 or 
> 3.  Quality issues with offshore products isn't
> limited to the few planes we 
> buy.  It seems that the lowest cost has become the
> sole reason to purchase 
> anything.  The flight from quality..........
> Ed M.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
> <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Planes
> 
> 
> 
> I know I should have made some noise about the last
> two kits I built. A 
> "name" airplane that I waited a long time for and
> was continually 
> dissapointed by.
> Then it got harder. I built a Black Magic next and
> all the flaws were my own 
> fault!
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> From: cjm767driver at hotmail.comTo:
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.orgDate: Sun, 
> 13 Jan 2008 20:07:57 -0600Subject:
> [NSRCA-discussion] New Planes
> 
> 
> Since it has been so quiet, I want to stir the pot
> and ask everyone why it 
> is that we as a group accept lots of poor quality
> kits and just shrug it 
> off? I spoke with 2 people this weekend who are
> building different planes 
> and both are unhappy with the quality of the kits.
> Pieces are warped and 
> twisted and tubes misaligned and we just say..."oh
> well, I'll fix it". One 
> guy said something to the effect that well, it was
> ONLY $1,000.00!!!! We are 
> way too lenient on accepting cruddy quality and just
> fixing it. I know there 
> are not a lot of vendors out there, but we are happy
> to pay just $1,000 and 
> get a twisted plane in return?? I was told one
> popular plane that many guys 
> now have has 5 DEGREES of down thrust mistakenly
> molded into the fuse and 
> everyone just says, oh well, I'll fix it. Don't know
> about you, but $1,000 
> is a lot of dough to me, and to happily pay for a
> cruddy product in return 
> is just wrong. I still remember that famous email
> from one mfg that 
> basically said that the person complaining about his
> wing was twisted should 
> be HAPPY that it was twisted because famous pilot XX
> flew the plane too and 
> he won the NATS with it. The problem is that we
> don't as a group send the 
> junk back and demand that we get our money's worth.
> Nospan expects a perfect 
> kit without any problems at all, but aren't we too
> lenient? Maybe we need to 
> just buy kits like Mike's Black Magic and then we
> can only blame ourselves 
> if it comes out crooked.Sorry, but I really feel
> that we are being taken 
> advantage of due to the limited supply of planes
> available and we are told 
> to take it or leave it.Ok, I feel better now.Chris
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