[NSRCA-discussion] New Planes

[chris moon]

I think you are right Ed.  We are falling over ourselves to get the
plane du jour and are willing to accept it as they come just to have
the hot item I guess.  I have no problem with a quality kit for $1200,
but accepting a messed up one that you have to fix or redo half of what
the factory did is just not my idea of a good deal. We should demand
better in my opinion.



Chris



Ed Miller wrote:

  Plane of the month syndrome, availability of planes and our own time to 
build has brought us to where we are.  We had quite a few domestic, quality 
conscious kit manufacturers at one time, now I think we are down just 2 or 
3.  Quality issues with offshore products isn't limited to the few planes we 
buy.  It seems that the lowest cost has become the sole reason to purchase 
anything.  The flight from quality..........
Ed M.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Planes



I know I should have made some noise about the last two kits I built. A 
"name" airplane that I waited a long time for and was continually 
dissapointed by.
Then it got harder. I built a Black Magic next and all the flaws were my own 
fault!

Anthony


From: cjm767driver at hotmail.comTo: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.orgDate: Sun, 
13 Jan 2008 20:07:57 -0600Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] New Planes


Since it has been so quiet, I want to stir the pot and ask everyone why it 
is that we as a group accept lots of poor quality kits and just shrug it 
off? I spoke with 2 people this weekend who are building different planes 
and both are unhappy with the quality of the kits. Pieces are warped and 
twisted and tubes misaligned and we just say..."oh well, I'll fix it". One 
guy said something to the effect that well, it was ONLY $1,000.00!!!! We are 
way too lenient on accepting cruddy quality and just fixing it. I know there 
are not a lot of vendors out there, but we are happy to pay just $1,000 and 
get a twisted plane in return?? I was told one popular plane that many guys 
now have has 5 DEGREES of down thrust mistakenly molded into the fuse and 
everyone just says, oh well, I'll fix it. Don't know about you, but $1,000 
is a lot of dough to me, and to happily pay for a cruddy product in return 
is just wrong. I still remember that famous email from one mfg that 
basically said that the person complaining about his wing was twisted should 
be HAPPY that it was twisted because famous pilot XX flew the plane too and 
he won the NATS with it. The problem is that we don't as a group send the 
junk back and demand that we get our money's worth. Nospan expects a perfect 
kit without any problems at all, but aren't we too lenient? Maybe we need to 
just buy kits like Mike's Black Magic and then we can only blame ourselves 
if it comes out crooked.Sorry, but I really feel that we are being taken 
advantage of due to the limited supply of planes available and we are told 
to take it or leave it.Ok, I feel better now.Chris

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