[NSRCA-discussion] Exper Class??

John Fuqua johnfuqua at embarqmail.com
Mon Feb 4 14:05:35 AKST 2008


More fuel for discussion.  If there are now to many in Masters,  rank
Masters pilots into two groups based on the last years District standings.
Then judge each other.  Top 2 move up the next year.  bottom 2 move down.
Or some ratio based on numbers of Masters pilots.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dave Burton
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Scrapping the mandatory advancement rule is an excellent approach. Where you
when I submitted rules proposals in two different cycles to do just this? I
could have used the support as it was soundly shouted down. I won't do that
again. But it needs to be done. I'm one of those 67 year old flyers  trapped
in Masters/FAI who can't move down where my present skill levels would be
more appropriate. Don't know if I would choose to back a class, but anyone
should have the option of flying the class most appropriate for them IMO. I
think peer pressure would keep the trophy hounds from staying. One reason
Masters is so crowded is ex FAI flyers who can't hack it with the top FAI
guys anymore and move back to Masters where they can compete.

Dave Burton

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek
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There is a discussion going on the District 7 list at the moment about not
forcing people to move up a class (using points).  Case in point is a pilot
that was forced out of Intermediate into Advanced and has crashed 2 Angels
Shadows due to "pilot error" (he admits it).  He is 67 years old and his
skill levels just don't warrant him being in Advanced.

 

Eric Henderson's last article in Model Aviation about the points system in
the NSRCA just proves this issue - I'm in full agreement with Eric on this
and would like to see the points system scrapped.  We definitely need to
cater to the pattern pilot that is very uncomfortable flying a new class
(they've pointed out of their current class) and would like to stay put
until they feel more comfortable.  This can also happen if a new sequence is
developed for their class and the pilot is uncomfortable flying it as well
in a contest.  Shouldn't we allow them to move back a class until they feel
comfortable with the new sequence (as Chris and Mike suggested)?

 

I would hate to lose a pilot to pattern (and a long time supporter of
pattern) because the system forced them to do something that they just
aren't comfortable with doing.

On Feb 4, 2008 10:33 AM, chris moon <cjm767driver at hotmail.com> wrote:

I think Mike hit the nail. The real problem is that there are too many 
guys that advance then hit a wall or drop out briefly without an easy 
way to move back. Adding another class is just bad. WIth the average 
attendance at a contest probably around 20, probably less, if we add 
another class to make 6, then that means essentially 3 people per 
class. Not really a competitive atmosphere. My vote would be to allow 
a system for guys to move BACK more easily, only for those who have 
moved up voluntarily and did not point out in their last class or have 
failed to excel in their new class. The peter principle applies to 
flying also.

But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong

Chris 



mike mueller wrote:
> I've flown both classes in the last 3 years. I don't think that this 
> discussion is going to get the rules changed.There are way too many 
> Masters guys who are content with the way things are. I would like to 
> see the guys that are stuck at the bottom of their respective classes 
> have an easier time going back a class. The main reason we have so 
> many Masters flyers is we advanced guys thru the system before they 
> were ready to compete due to a lack of competition. It's sad to see 
> guys hit a brick wall and end up quiting the sport due to frustration.
> I like the idea that I can fly Fai or Masters based on my own 
> volition. In the midwest we always have large fields in Masters and 
> it's pretty hard to beat the field.
> Mike
>

> */"Woodward, Jim" /* wrote:

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