[NSRCA-discussion] FW: !4 MZ modifications
Tony
tony at radiosouthrc.com
Fri Dec 12 04:43:54 AKST 2008
Remember that Spektra's 2.4Ghz solution is NOT JR's solution! JR has their
own 2.4Ghz spread spectrum system, it is just not sold in the USA. You can
find info on it at:
http://www.graupner-ifs-system.de/en/news/detail/browse/1/article/10/das-gra
upner-24-ghz-ifs-system.html
Looks like the XPS receiver, or at least very similar design.
Tony Stillman, President
Radio South, Inc.
139 Altama Connector, Box 322
Brunswick, GA 31525
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: !4 MZ modifications
I was hoping it wasn't going to become a JR vs Futaba deal when I posted my
bad experience. What happened to me happened a long time ago and I would
like to drop it at that. Both radio makers are doing fine work currently,
producing what we want, many times exceeding expectation.
I am certain that I will not change my preference just the same as most who
fly the other brands will not change theirs.
MattK
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Beaubien <rob at koolsoft.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 8:02 pm
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: !4 MZ modifications
Futaba's problems are not many, but are mostly based on a self-superiority
complex it has. I think its 2.4Ghz solution is a better one than
Spektrum/JR's, but saying a data-logger is not needed because it just works
is foolish when it comes to marketing. Same goes for remote antennae.
Additionally, this denial of a heat problem with the receivers (by Hobbico
mainly, not necessarily Futaba) does nothing good for their reputation.
JR's reputation is a whole lot better because they respond very quickly to
problems and "take the blame" when necessary. Anyways, per repeated
contacts with Hobbico on forums and on phone, they say they will upgrade
the stick encoders without charge on the 14MZ or the 12Z regardless of age.
Now whether that means if you send
the radio in for that reason alone, they do it free of charge, I don't
know, but they certainly didn't charge me any extra when I sent my 12Z in
for its 2 year check-up @ $87.50. They also upgraded the stick springs and
fixed an internal antenna problem for no additional charge. - Robert
Beaubien - NSRCA, District 7 Webmaster - -----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
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<mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org?> ] On Behalf Of Ron Van
Putte Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:33 PM To: General pattern
discussion Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: !4 MZ modifications I
hate to say this (actually I don't), but I'm reminded of the way the
United States Air Force handles "problems". I feel qualified, since I
spent 20 years in a USAF uniform. The USAF never saw a problem that it
couldn
't hide from, deny the existence of or drag its feet in fixing.
I hope Futaba "grows some" and begins to aggressively fix problems.
Ron VP On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:51 PM, Stuart Chale wrote: > I am a
Futaba loyalist (use JR servos) but Futaba is not nearly as > good as JR
in admitting and then fixing problems. Futaba tries to > cover it up and
JR comes clean. Maybe someday I will see the light :) > Stuart > >
rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote: >> >> Jeez, at least they will give you
something new and acknowledge >> the error of their ways. >> >> Reminds
me of the old Futaba J systems of the early 80s. I had one >> (the last
Futaba I owned for Pattern) and it KILLED my most >> beloved Arrow of the
time. That plane was something else....I had >> great confidence in its
flying capability until its early DEATH at >> 12 flights, just long
enough to know it was the best ever for me >> at the ti
me. >> >> Caps because it's been 25 years and I still get pissed off at
how >> that whole thing was handled by Futaba of America (badly). Good
>> products overall, but they deserve a little bashing for the way >>
they handled MY situation. >> >> Really good airplanes are very hard to
replace and their loss sets >> you back quite a while. And I'm sure that
some guys never make it >> back >> >> Matt >> >> >> -----Original
Message----- >> From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> >> To: General
pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> >> Sent: Thu, 11 Dec
2008 4:51 pm >> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: !4 MZ modifications >>
>> Hmmmm. I wonder how Keith knows this. Come clean Keith. How'd you >>
find out?
>> >> Inquisitive Ron VP >> >> On Dec 11
, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Keith Hoard wrote: >> >> > The old ones are blue and
the new ones are white. . . there is a >> > secret code to getting them
changed out. You have to tell them > >> that you're getting intermittent
glitches that you can see on the >> > servo screen. >> > >> > Otherwise
they won't change them out until you lose an >> airplane. . . >> > >> >
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM, John Pavlick >> <jpavlick at idseng.com> >
wrote: >> > And if they could just tell us exactly what that secret "color"
>> is, > we could all look at our radios and figure out if they need >>
to be > replaced or not. Almost there... >> > >> > OK, let's try this: >>
> Tony - what color are the encoders that you install when you > >>
service one of these radios
that has "bad" encoders? >> > >> > John Pavlick >> > >> > --- On Thu,
12/11/08, Richard Strickland <pamrich47 at hotmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >
From: Richard Strickland <pamrich47 at hotmail.com> >> > Subject:
[NSRCA-discussion] FW: !4 MZ modifications >> > To: "NSRCA DISCUSSION"
<nsrca-dis cussion at lists.nsrca.org> >> > Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008,
6:05 PM >> > >> > Here's a little more info.... >> > RS >> > >> > >> >
> -----Original Message----- >> > > From: support Futaba
[mailto:support at hobbico.com <mailto:support at hobbico.com?> ] >> > > Sent:
Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:57 AM >> > > To:
richard.s at allied-callaway.com
<mailto:richard.s at allied-cal%0d%0a%20laway.com> >> > > Sub
ject: Re: FW: !4 MZ modifications >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Valued
Customer: >> > > >> > > Thank you for your Email. >> > > >> > > The
stick encoders have been replaced with new ones. The only >> > thing we
>> > > know is that they are a different color, but the part numbers >>
are > the >> > > same. The screens are not a "new" type, just replacements
for bad >> > > ones. >> > > >> > > We hope you find this information
helpful. Should you have any >> > further >> > > questions or concerns,
please do not hesitate to contact us at >> this >> > > email address.
(Please be sure to copy all previous emails >> into any >> > > future
questions.) >> > > >> > > DID YOU KNOW that our web pages now all contain
FAQs?
>> (Frequently > asked >> > > questions) Please drop by and take a
look! We hope you'll find >> the >> > > information helpful and valuable
to you. >> > > >> > > Sincerely, >> > > >> > > Futaba Service Center
North America >> > > 3002 N. Apollo Dr. Suite 1 >> > > Champaign IL 61822
>> > > USA >> > > >> > > Phone: (217) 398-0007 >> > > Fax: (217) 398-7721
>> > > Email: service at futaba-rc.com >> > > Web:
http://www.futaba-rc.com/index.html >> > > >> > > >>> "Richard Strickland"
<richard.s at allied-callaway.com> >> 12/11/2008 >> > > 10:42 AM >>> >>
> > >> > > >> > > Have the encoders
been changed to a different type or > >> configuation? If >> > > so, >>
> > about when was that change made? Same thing on the screen--are >> the
>> > > newer >> > > ones different than the older ones? If so, about when
was that >> > change >> > > made? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> >
> Richard >> > >> > >> > Send e-mail faster without improving your typing
skills. Get >> your > Hotmail(r) account. >> >
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