[NSRCA-discussion] Have we lost our way? (Sorry, George, but your question inspired this)

rcmaster199 at aol.com rcmaster199 at aol.com
Wed Aug 6 07:21:53 AKDT 2008


Hmmmmm!! Kris you are assuming a better designed plane has to cost 
more. Quite the contrary. I wouldn't give 10 bux for most of the 
current designs out there regardless of cost. They all need mixing of 
one type or another. What's needed is a Paradigm Shift in model design

On the other hand, a 200$ Oxalis 50 flies more accurately than almost 
any 2 meter job flying today including its 2 meter cousin...just 
doesn't present anywhere near as well as the large planes

MattK

-----Original Message-----
From: krishlan fitzsimmons <homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:06 am
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Have we lost our way? (Sorry, George, 
but your question inspired this)

Sillyness..
 
I use a dual rate switch for more throw for stall, spins and snaps. I 
don't use a snap switch or a spin switch. I do use mixing.
You are saying I shouldn't be allowed to use a dual rate switch or a 
mix to help my poorly designed plane to fly a little more like a better 
designed plane that alot of us can't afford that takes less mix or 
could maybe get away with none?
 
Sillyness Matt.
 
Although, I'm not sure why people use a snap switch. In my opinion it's 
so much easier to fly them with the sticks. They present better IMO. 
Take for instance the 45 down, 1 1/2 snap. Using a switch I see people 
way steeper than2045 as they let off the switch. Why? Because the up ele 
is still held until the last second.
Switches don't make you a top pilot. Practice and skill does.. If 
people need em, I say use em. That's why they are there. For me, I'll 
stick with just a single dual rate switch..
 
Sorry. Just my thoughts... 
Disclamer: These words are not to be used against me in any way shape 
or form or a cloud will instantly form over you while you are flying 
and you will get dumped on before you can put away your gear. (Ruining 
your cell phone because it falls into a puddle)
 
Oh wait, that's what happened to us (D7) several times while practicing 
at the nats.. lol
 

 
 
Chris
 
 
 




----- Original Message ----
From: Matthew Frederick &lt;mjfrederick at cox.net&gt;
To: General pattern discussion &lt;nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org&gt;
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 8:19:10 PM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Have we lost our way? (Sorry, George, but 
your question inspired this)

Call me crazy if you want, but I'm getting sick of all these 
"conditions"
being allowed in pattern. The whole point of what we do puts emphasis 
on the
pilot being in control of the model at all times. It's one thing to 
flip a
switch to enable higher rates for a snap, stall, slow roll, whatever. I
think we're going too far with just pulling the stick past 90 degrees 
to
i
nstill a snap "condition" that will automatically perform a snap roll 
with
the programmed inputs. In the rules it states that you can't have a 
"timed"
switch, witch basically was put in
 to avoid people from programming a snap
switch that gave the elevator a slight lead on all the other inputs.
Allowing the elevator (or any other) stick to provide this same 
advantage is
tantamount to cheating, it just happens to pass the current rules test. 
The
more I hear about people putting these types of conditions that are 
merely
contingent on stick position, the more I think it's coming time for a 
rules
change to stop it. We're supposed to be better than this. I'm probably
waaaay out on a limb by myself here, but from where I sit having 
started in
pattern back in the late 80's, I think we're losing our way by allowing
computers to perform operations that should be required by the pilots. 
I
don't even believe in programmed mixes and avoid them like the plague.

Matt

P.S. Before anyone who knows me asks, yes, I did fly a Genesis, and yes 
I
did have elevator to rudder mix on that... hopefully
 my next plane won't
suck like that...

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