[NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5

Mon Mar 5 16:54:56 AKST 2007

Rudder I would definitely run more.  On the elevator that is more than
enough.  I flew the 9254 servo last year, same as CPLR, 48oz on the elevator
and had no problems on my Mantis.  Actually the Focus 2 that I am finishing
right now I'm putting the same servo on the elevator there, but you might
want more on the rudder.  I run the 9155 servo that is almost 200 on the
rudder.  How much rudder throw are you using for the snap?

Arch

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:46 PM
To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5

My apologies Randy. I did not realize you were referring to your elevator in
your message.

Ryan

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy Forbus
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:43 PM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5

I should think so to, since I read CPLR uses on a 45oz servo on his planes

>From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:48:49 -0500
>
>I think the 90 oz is enough on elevator, if throw is 21 deg or so.
>Rudder may benefit from more power.
>
>Ron Lockhart
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ryan Smith" <smaragdz at bellsouth.net>
>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>
>
> > Randy,
> >
> > That seems to be a bit of a paltry number from what I'm used to. I've 
>got
>a
> > Futaba 9151 on the rudder of my Partner, and a DS8411SA is going on my
>Focus
> > II, and all of my future airplanes unless something I like better comes
>down
> > the pike. The 9151 is well into the 100oz/in range in torque so you may 
>be
> > getting blowback.
> >
> > I am not sure of what your nomenclature for what type of Focus you have,
>if
> > it means you have a Focus I fuse with Focus II wings, but I would most
> > certainly listen to whatever suggestions Arch may have for setup.
> >
> > Take care, and good luck!
> >
> > Ryan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy
>Forbus
> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:29 PM
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> >
> > I think I have enough power 90 oz in and no slop
> >
> >
> > >From: ronlock at comcast.net
> > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:35:24 +0000
> > >
> > >You might want to check elevator throw -
> > >My Focus likes at least 21 degrees of elevator throw to get a clean
> > >break for the snap.  Also confirm no linkage flex and enough elevator
> > >servo power.
> > >
> > >Later, Ron Lockhart
> > >
> > >-------------- Original message --------------
> > >From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com>
> > >
> > > > Balance the Easy Weigh - look in the archives, or I can email it to
>you.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy
> > >Forbus
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:53 PM
> > > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > >
> > > > what article, I will check it out thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Jay Marshall"
> > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > > >To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
> > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:46:36 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >If you have a scale and my article I put on the discussion list you
>can
> > > > >calculate what to move and the effects.
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > >[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of 
>Randy
> > >Forbus
> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:40 PM
> > > > >To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > >
> > > > >yeah either full left or full right full up elevator, and full left
>or
> > > > >right
> > > > >
> > > > >aileron, I do have to agree with you on the CG issue it balances 
>nose
> > >heavy
> > > > >if you go by the recommended CG, im going to try to move the 
>battery
> > >aft,
> > > > >doesnt have alot of room, dont really want tp add weight to the 
>tail,
> > >but
> > > > >will if I have to, thanks Ed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Ed White
> > > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > > > >To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:15:43 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I've flown a Focus 1, and owned and flew a Focus 2 for
> > > > > >almost 3 seasons. Both snapped quite well on moderate
> > > > > >rates. Though the Focus 2 admittedly showed a
> > > > > >cleaner, quicker snap to the left.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >It could be CG. Where is your CG relative to the wing
> > > > > >tube?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also, I'll ask this because I know a certain pilot who
> > > > > >is a much better than I am, but who was having a huge
> > > > > >problem getting his plane to negative snap, it would
> > > > > >just "mush over" - are you sure you are using the
> > > > > >correct rudder direction?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- Randy Forbus wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im having trouble getting my Focus to snap, Ive been
> > > > > > > practicing the advanced
> > > > > > > ( I know Keith, I dont belong there),but anyway when
> > > > > > > I do the avalanch and
> > > > > > > the 45 degree down with a snap it just kinda mushes
> > > > > > > over, I think its
> > > > > > > because its nose heavy, have everything on high
> > > > > > > rates, anyone else had this
> > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > >
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