[NSRCA-discussion] Are these E-Meter readings OK

Sun Jul 29 07:42:11 AKDT 2007

Yes it has the Kevlar (yellow wrap).  I guess that didn't totally fix the
problem.  Less than 100 flights.  Hopefully I can get them to send me out a
rotor and save the turn around time.  In the meantime I will get the next
plane ready to fly.  
Thanks,
Stuart

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of andrew
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Stuart,

Is the rotor look like it has Kevlar wrap around it? If not then the nose 
over probably had nothing to do with it as I cracked a rotor before. The new

motors have gone to a Kevlar wrap which decreases the chances of this 
happening. With that being said it still can and will happen. You did the 
right thing to stop and ask as it saved you in the long run.

Andrew
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From: "Steven Maxwell" <patternrules at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:09 AM
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> You've done nothing wrong mine had good ducting too, the problem is the
> internal heat, the case always read normal temps on mine as I watched it
> like a hawk.
> Like Andrew said it's a good thing you was watching your MAH as it could
> have cost you batteries and controller.
> Looks like the only option right now is to replace the rotor if you don't
> fly all that much it might be the best option now for you.
>
> Steve Maxwell
>
>
> From: Stuart Chale <schale at optonline.net>
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Are these E-Meter readings OK
> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:46:48 -0400
>
> I certainly would rather not spend the money for another motor right now.
> My motor cooling is actually pretty good.  Oxai Pinnacle E.  The openings 
> in
> the cheek cowls are ducted directly to a plastic tube (old container) 
> around
> the motor with about 3/16" spacing around the motor and ducted out at the
> rear of the motor.  It actually stays quite cool.
> I wonder if this happened when trying to take off from grass and the plane
> nosed over stopping the prop (from low throttle, but as I was advancing it
> to start the takeoff).
>
> Thanks,
> Stuart
>
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Verne 
> Koester
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:34 AM
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>
> Stuart,
> This seems to be a common problem on standard C-50's, particularly if
> they're not cooled properly. The comp version has a built-in fan that all
> but eliminates the problem and the ducting isn't nearly so critical.
>
> Verne
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart Chale" <schale at optonline.net>
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> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:21 AM
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>
>
> Never mind I answered my own question and pulled it apart.  For those
> wondering, just pull off the front housing after taking off the gear box 
> and
> the rotor pulls out.  There is a brass bushing on the rear of the shaft.
> That was the only extra piece on mine. (standard C50)
>
> The rotor was cracked.  Circumferential about 1/4" from the front end. 
> The
> distal part of the rotor had slipped by about 1/8".
>
> And I thought electrics were supposed to be less maintenance :)
> Stuart
>
>
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
> andrewjesky at charter.net
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:14 PM
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>
> Stuart,
>
> >From the sounds of it I'm thinking that you have a slipped rotor or a
> demaged rotor. Normal amps should be in the upper 60's range. I would 
> advise
> you not to run the motor until you get it checked out as you have the
> possibility to burn up your batteries and speed control. Get a hold of 
> Kyle
> at hacker on monday and inform him of your problem to get thoughts.
> 480-726-7519
>
> Andrew Jesky
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stuart Chale <schale at optonline.net>
>
> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:05:53
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Are these E-Meter readings OK
>
>
> I have been noticing increased Mah consumption on flights recently. I used
> to routinely use 3300 Mah or so for a Masters routine plus a couple of
> additional maneuvers. Lately it seemed to be in the upper 3's and today I
> hit 4100 Mah. The weather is a bit warmer but not real hot today. Flights
> are about 9 min +/- 1 min. In addition the packs seem to be getting
> hotter. Today they were 140's. Motor was cool however, under 90 where I
> could get a reading. These are Falcon F3A packs. 5000 Mah or so running a
> Hacker C50 14 XL and APC 22x12, Jeti acro 90 controller.
>
> Today I attached the Hyperion E-Meter and obtained the following readings 
> at
> full throttle 75.8 amps, 2500 something watts, and 32 something volts. (I
> lost the held readings)
> When new with the same size prop my numbers were 70.9 amps, 33.81 volts 
> and
> 2399 watts.
>
> The plane still has plenty of power. Are those numbers still in the range
> of normal? Is this increase of 5 amps at full throttle normal, too high, 
> or
> am I just flying at high throttle more than I was?
> Thanks,
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