[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010

J N Hiller jnhiller at earthlink.net
Thu Jul 26 09:49:56 AKDT 2007


I absolutely agree. I saw the entry-level problems in both pattern and IMAC
where pilots needed to not only learn to fly the maneuvers but string
several together to present a turnaround sequence. I entered both from what
is now referred to as ballistic pattern with single maneuver experience
greatly simplifying turnaround sequencing.
Jim Hiller

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ed Alt
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:47 AM
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010

I like variety in schedules too, but I think there is a balance to strike
with the lower classes.  It's a lot of effort each year to learn a new
sequence.  Once you have enough experience flying aerobatics, you can focus
on new sequences without detracting from the other improvements you want to
make.

Re. giving the SIG all the control, I would not want to see that happen.  In
the case of IMAC, the SIG leadership became very IAC centric and made
changes that work against being able to learn fundamentals before moving up,
in favor a being a carbon copy miniature of IAC.  Just look at what the IMAC
lower class sequences now contain and consider what problems they represent
for learning fundamentals.  I think you need an effective counterbalance to
help keep sanity to the sequence design.

Ed

>From: Mark Atwood <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
>Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:45:19 -0400
>
>Hear hear.
>
>I9m not generally a proponent of changing the lower classes all the time
>(the intent is that they not be destination classes...I also know the
>reality of that so please, no hate mail) But I9m a HUGE HUGE HUGE fan of
>being ABLE to change them every year...i.e. Removing the patterns from the
>AMA rulebook and allowing the Sig to post the schedules that will be in
>effect in a given year.
>
>I think you9ll find ALL of the contest board members would vote 3Yea2 for
>that if they ever got the chance to...
>
>The advantages are so many I can9t even begin to list them.
>
>-M
>
>
>On 7/26/07 8:37 AM, "John Ferrell" <johnferrell at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Are you certain that you really can change the schedule without waiting
>out
> > the rules cycle?
> >
> > The lower classes had to endure 6 years of the same schedule because the
> > Contest Board refused to act on anything other than emergency proposals
>in the
> > interim. Many of the Advanced flyers elected just to stand down.
> >
> > You have just pointed to advantage the IMAC discipline has over Pattern
>with
> > AMA...
> >
> > I hope you can pull it off because the existing conditions are
>detrimental to
> > the game.
> >
> > John Ferrell    W8CCW
> > "Life is easier if you learn to plow
> >        around the stumps"
> > http://DixieNC.US
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From:  Derek  Koopowitz <mailto:derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:26  PM
> >>
> >> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed  Masters Sequence for 2009/2010
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Over the past couple of months we (the NSRCA board)  have received a
>number
> >> of comments about the Masters sequence that was  selected in 2005.  We
>heard
> >> that the sequence had too many snaps,  turnaround maneuvers did not
>allow
> >> positioning of the plane (in or out) after  the 5th maneuver, and that
>the
> >> difficulty level from Advanced to Masters was  further increased.
>There was
> >> also an error in the schedule in that one  would come out of the Double
> >> Immelman (#10) inverted and head into the Humpty  Bump (pull-push-pull)
>and
> >> head into the ground based on the description.   The Masters schedule
>was
> >> published in the July 2005 issue of the K-Factor  (Option A on page 25)
>- in
> >> lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion
> >
> >
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