[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010

Thu Jul 26 04:02:00 AKDT 2007

I'd also like to add that we flew this sequence with many of the existing power plants. Arch with the DZ, Ed Alt with a OS 140RX, Matt Kababjian with a Webra 145 or 160 and myself with a Hacker C50  13XL setup. I did forget to log battery usage, but did note it was shorter than the current sequence.We also fixed a problem that is in the current sequence (wrong type of humpty before the Figure-M). 

Manuever #9 and 15 are the cross box maneuvers in the sequence for positioning purposes in the committees revised sequence where in Option A they are maneuver #3 and 5.

From: rcpattern at stx.rr.comTo: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.orgDate: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 01:03:18 -0500Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010

Mark,

This actually was something we inadvertently discovered with this sequence.  It is easily 1-2 minutes shorter than the current sequence simply because of maneuver choices.  There are no time consuming maneuvers such as the reverse Cuban and the golfball.  It was not done intentionally upfront,  but has become a very nice discovery after flying the sequence several times,

Arch

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mark AtwoodSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 10:43 PMTo: NSRCA Mailing ListSubject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Masters Sequence for 2009/2010

I don’t fly masters, and I’m on the contest board...so I don’t want to comment on the flow or difficulty of the sequence, I only want to comment that one of the things happening in FAI is a shortening of the sequences which I think the Masters group aught to consider as well.  Two main benefits... Reduced flight time allows a more balanced contest schedule with the other classes and facilitates getting more rounds in with more people and less chaos.  The other benefit is it helps to reduce the current weight disparity between electrics and glow by reducing the flight time, and thus the capacity required to complete the sequence. (I.e. You can use smaller battery packs).  Just something to think about...all it would take is removing a few maneuvers...not a complete redesign.-MOn 7/25/07 11:26 PM, "Derek Koopowitz" <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
Over the past couple of months we (the NSRCA board) have received a number of comments about the Masters sequence that was selected in 2005.  We heard that the sequence had too many snaps, turnaround maneuvers did not allow positioning of the plane (in or out) after the 5th maneuver, and that the difficulty level from Advanced to Masters was further increased.  There was also an error in the schedule in that one would come out of the Double Immelman (#10) inverted and head into the Humpty Bump (pull-push-pull) and head into the ground based on the description.  The Masters schedule was published in the July 2005 issue of the K-Factor (Option A on page 25) - in order to correct the error, maneuver #9 was modifed to a 1/2 Square Loop with 1/2 Roll Down instead of the 1/2 Square Loop with 2/2 Pt Roll Down.The board felt that the original Masters sequence committee should revisit the schedule to look it over and perhaps make modifications.  The original committee was Troy Newman (chair), Ed Alt, Dave Lockhart, Joe Lachoswki, Arch Stafford and Bob Pastorello.  Bob dropped out since he no longer flies pattern.  Troy and the team started working on it but Troy couldn't devote 100% of his time to it due to the Nats approaching and his commitment to trying to make the US team.  Dave, Ed, Joe and Arch worked the sequence but decided that it would take too much modification to correct.  Instead they came up with a revised schedule that the board felt was a worthy replacement.  The board would like to submit this schedule to the Contest Board to be considered as a replacement for the original schedule.What do we need from everyone?  We'd like to get your opinion on the sequence that was selected in 2005 and the new schedule that was created by the sequence committee to address the issues that were raised by a number of pilots.Here is the sequence that was selected: 
       2009 Masters 404 Option A                              KF     1       Takeoff Sequence        1      2       Stall Turn, 1-1/4 Roll Up, 1-1/4 Positive Snap down     5      3       Top-Hat with 1/4 Rolls, Exit INV        2      4       Cuban 8 with Full Rolls, Exit INV       4      5       Humpty Bump, with options (1/2's or 1/4's up and Down to Exit Upright)  2      6       Avalanche, 1-1/2 snap roll, Exit INV    4      7       1/2 Square Loop on Corner (1/2 Diamond Loop)    2      8       Eight-Sided Outside Loop from top       4      9       1/2 Square Loop, 1/2pt Roll down        2      10      Double Immelman, Full Rolls     4      11      Humpty Bump (pull-push-pull), Full Roll up, 1/2 Roll down       3      12      8pt Roll        4      13      Stall Turn, Full Roll up        2      14      Two Loops with 1/2 Rolls on top 4      15      1/2 Reverse Cuban 8 with 2/4pt Roll up  2      16      Two 2/2pt Rolls Reversed        4      17      Immelman Turn   2      18      45 degree down, 1-1/2 Positive Snap, Exit INV   3      19      1/2 Cuban 8, Exit INV   2      20      Triangle Loop with Snap Roll on top, Exit INV   4      21      1/2 Square Loop 1      22      Two 2-turn spins, Reversed      4      23      Landing 1              Total   66      
Here is the new sequence that was created by the sequence committee:         Proposed 2009-2010 Masters Sequence                                                   No.                     Kf                                    1       Takeoff         (U)     1      2       Half Clover , with 2/4 pt roll up, 1/2 roll down        (U)     4      3       Humpty bump, 2/4 pt. roll up    (T)     2      4       Eight point roll        (D)     4      5       1/2 Cuban 8, 2/2 pt. Roll       (T)     2      6       Avalanche with 1-1/2 snap, INV entry (from bottom)      (U)     4      7       Half square loop on corner w/ 1/2 rolls (T)     2      8       Eight sided loop from top, INV entry    (D)     4      9       Reverse Humpty Bump w/Options from top(1/2 or 1/4 rolls up and down)    (T)     3      10      45 degree down with 1-1/2 snap roll     (U)     3      11      Stall turn, half rolls, INV entry       (T)     2      12      Four point roll, INV entry      (D)     4      13      Humpty Bump(push,pull,pull), 2/4 pt. Roll Up, 1/2 Roll Down, INV entry  (T)     3      14      Figure-M , with 3/4 Rolls       (U)     5      15      Top Hat w/ 1/4 Rolls    (T)     2      16      Two 2/2 pt. rolls reversed      (D)     4      17      Immelmann Turn  (T)     2      18      Hour Glass( MID entry, top first) 2/4 pt roll down      (U)     5      19      Figure 9 from middle (INV entry, top first)     (T)     1      20      Double Immelmann with Full Rolls        (D)     3      21      Half Square Loop with 2/2 pt. roll up   (T)     2      22      2-1/2 Turn Spin, INV entry, upright exit        (U)     3      23      Landing (U)     1                                                     TOTAL   66     Hopefully the above is legible… please let me know your thoughts. 

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