[NSRCA-discussion] contest

Thu Jul 5 13:14:22 AKDT 2007

Couple facts about 'The Contest'.

8 out of 13 pre-registers did not show up.

5 out of 9 participants were from the host club.our only saving grace to
request a weekend next year.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:57 PM
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Well... if it dwindles much more won't be enough interest to even justify
having it on the schedule.  Most clubs can't justify holding events that
cost the club money from their treasury as well as ask local member to give
up their field. 

    Del

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From: Ken Thompson <mailto:mrandmrst at comcast.net>  

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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:25 AM

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I can see it now,

Contest dates:  August 11th and 12th, or maybe just the 11th, we aren't sure
yet...

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From: Joe Lachowski <mailto:jlachow at hotmail.com>  

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Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:15 AM

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Del/Terry get a life. Frankly he did what was in his right to do.  And I'm
sure he discussed his plans for the contest at the pilots meeting.  I wasn't
there but I bet everyone understood and accepted the CD's decision. You
failed to realize they probably lost money running the event due to low
turnout anyway. Also, he has to consider the club. Would you want your local
field closed for use two days just for 10 guys from out of town? He may have
saved his contest for next year by doing so. He helped our cause for better
or worse.

So Del, when are you going to show your face at a contest? Don't remember
the last time I saw you<g>

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From: drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 09:45:19 -0400
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Hi Ed..

    As I recall it is in the CD packet you receive when you take your test
to become a CD. It was many years ago that I became a CD so I may be
confused on it being in the packet. The rub would come if a AMA filed a
protest against a CD for advertising an event that they didn't follow
through to provide as advertised. All AMA sanctions have guidelines. If you
mislead/change or don't follow the sanction guidelines you can have
disciplinary measures taken against the CD.

          Del  

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From: Ed Alt <mailto:ed_alt at hotmail.com>  

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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:55 PM

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Oh heck, I couldn't resist, so I went back to try to find the place in the
rules where it says a CD can't shorten the contest.  I couldn't find it.  I
found things like he can't cancel it for low attendance, which didn't
happen.  But nothing about clipping a day off the end after a sufficient
number of rounds has been flown, with the consent of all contestants
PRESENT. Please provide the passage for review, because I don't see it
anywhere.

Thanks

Ed

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From: Ed Alt <mailto:ed_alt at hotmail.com>  

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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:36 PM

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Del:

That would have been quite a challenge with no pilots.  We got a full
contest in on Saturday.  Let's move on, shall we?

Ed

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From: Del K. Rykert 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:58 AM

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Terry is correct.  The CD guidelines are very clear regarding any changes to
a sanctioned event that are advertised. They do have to follow the format
that was advertised. Acts of GOD & severe weather are acceptable exceptions.

    Del 

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From: Ed Alt <mailto:ed_alt at hotmail.com>  

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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:58 PM

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Terry:

Ask John about what he was thinking re. the Sunday late comer possibility.
I don't know.

Anyway, I think the CD does have this type of discretion.  There's a point
at which you are putting contestants who did show up on the advertised start
date and time in position where they would have to incur the additional time
and expense of the 2nd day for no useful purpose from their point of view.
We got 5 rounds in without breaking a sweat.  That's a complete contest. I
think he made a good decision and he also discussed it with us first.

Ed

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Adrien L <mailto:amad2terry at juno.com>  Terrenoire 

To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 

Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:25 PM

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When John made that decision did he consider that there may be a flyer who
could only make it Sunday?? At one point that option was one I considered. I
had a birthday party for my 3 year old grandson in CT, and I gave
consideration to coming home Sunday by way of the contest. Needless to say,
I would have been really P*****d if I had gotten there just to find out that
it had been turned into a one day affair. That is NOT following AMA
guidelines for a contest adminstration. The CD MUST adhear to the advertised
event schedule.

Terry T.

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:52:19 -0500 "Ed Alt" <ed_alt at hotmail.com> writes:

Del:

This was actually scheduled as a 2 day contest.  Due to the low attendance,
John Tarpinian elected to make it a one day contest, which worked out quite
well.

Anyway, I agree with George's assessment.  It's a really nice field with
some minor runway obstacles to keep in mind, but for all practical purposes,
they don't exist due to the CD instructions on how landings are to be scored
(anywhere on a very long runway is a 10).  We had a great time flying, the
hospitality from the club was great and overall, it was an event I will want
to return to.  

Ed

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Del <mailto:drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>  K. Rykert 

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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:31 AM

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Hi George..

    When/if I can get back to competing that is a long way to go for a one
day event knowing how fickle the weather in the N.E. can be.  I have never
attended a 1 day event in all my years of competing. If they were close by
that might make it viable.

    Del

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From: george w. kennie <mailto:geobet at gis.net>  

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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:33 PM

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] contest

For all the guys in D1 that missed the Hadley contest on Saturday I want to
express my disappointment at the absence of your presence at what was a
terrific time.Ed Alt was the only guy that showed up from the N.J.
contingent and was a great help as judge, caller, and certainly the premiere
performer of the day with really notable performances from Scott Smith with
his new electric Patriot with the Hacker 60 up front. I felt that everyone
flew well and would have loved to have had more representation in each
class. 

Due to the East facing flightline we didn't get started as early as I would
have liked, but that was probably a blessing in disguise as we probably
would have had a 10 round contest.

As it was, the contest was a very laid-back affair with wonderful
temperatures and partly sunny skies, a little breezy in the P.M., but
handled easily by everyone in attendance. Lots of lazy kibitzing under the
easy-ups all day.

The field was freshly mowed and well prepped for even the lowest of prop
clearances ( Walter Erickson had about 3/4"). 

One of the enticing features of this event were the high dollar prizes
awarded the winners. Jim Quinn was overheard celebrating his $6K award for
his high placement in Master's.

In spite of my personal ban ( apparently the word had not gotten out) I was
allowed to judge 5 rounds in all classes which was very refreshing after all
these years. 

The kindness extended to me was very much appreciated as they allowed me to
fly a class that I was totally unqualified for in spite of the fact that I
came in dead last (in a field of one).

Great food was in abundance both lunch and dinner and it was gratus. Nobody
went home hungry. John Tarpinian(C.D.) did an admirable job of putting
together a first rate event and even had a hat-draw raffle at the end where
everyone went home with something of value (that's in addition to those high
dollar placement awards).

In attendance was the "New Kid" in D1 competition, David Lampron, who took
first in Sportsman and at 13 years of age is going to be one to watch in the
next couple of years. David has a younger brother, Dean, who I predict will
follow in his brother's footsteps. These 2 kids are the nicest young guys,
respectful and polite to a fault. David served as a maneuver caller for the
judges on many rounds and a little sister, Kelly worked on the scoring
program ( not as a runner, but the real thing), she must have been about 9
or 10.

The field is a little tight on one end and will make you pay attention on
your landings, but the overall surroundings are a very pleasant farmland
paradise. For the guys that passed this one up this year, you really missed
a great time.Be sure and put a big star beside this one on next year's
calendar.You'll be glad you did.

Georgie

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