[NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.

[Adrien L Terrenoire]

George: It is a Zero, because the pilot DID NOT do the correct maneuver.
he did a 1/2 sq with 1/2 roll, and NOT the 1/2 sq with 2 of 4 up. Totally
different maneuver!!

Terry T.
 
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 14:33:49 -0400 "george w. kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
writes:
> I would have given him a 5. I would interpret that as the pilot 
> missing one 
> point of a point maneuver.
> G.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
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> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
> 
> 
> > However, with judges taught to downgrade from what they saw, an
> > incorrect maneuver is easy to slip in, unless the judge memorizes 
> the
> > maneuver schedule or there's a caller for the judges.  For 
> example, a
> > pilot performs what's supposed to be a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 2 of 4
> > Point Roll Up.  However, he actually does a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 
> 1/2
> > Roll Up.  Hmmmm.  Looks right, but it's a zero.  Many judges will
> > miss it.
> >
> > Ron Van Putte
> >
> > On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Doug Cronkhite wrote:
> >
> >> There's a huge disparity between not seeing a downgrade and 
> outright
> >> missing someone flying the wrong maneuver.
> >>
> >> -Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Fred Huber wrote:
> >>> Thats actually the premise behind how we are told to judge..
> >>>
> >>> If you don't see a downgrade... its a 10.
> >>>
> >>> *******
> >>>
> >>> I couldn't get away with doing a wrong way over-rotation... I'd 
> be
> >>> saying
> >>> "Oh crap!" loud enough for the judges to hear.  If the pilot 
> says
> >>> something
> >>> like that... you can pretty well figure he thinks he zeroed the
> >>> maneuver.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo at san.rr.com>
> >>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:19 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> At the TOC in 2000, on the very last flight of the event, Chip
> >>>> had a 1
> >>>> 1/4 positive snap to the right on a vertical downline, but he
> >>>> instead
> >>>> did 1 3/4 snaps to the left. Because he exited the correct
> >>>> direction,
> >>>> only ONE judge out of ten (Peter Wessels) caught it. The other 
> 9
> >>>> judges
> >>>> gave him VERY good scores.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don't always assume that the higher score is correct. It's 
> entirely
> >>>> possible they just didn't see the downgrades/mistakes made.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Doug
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