[NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from Patrick Lemonnier

Mon Jan 22 14:25:39 AKST 2007

Hey Chris,

And I thought Jetstream 31 drivers were the only one's stuck without
autopilots:-)  You know that Marine Air Terminal is our corporate
HQ...wild to think that Al Ueltschi flew Trippe around and that the
"314" flying boats used to fly out of that facility....so much history.
I cringe to think of how much weather flying by hand you must have done
during those 6 years:-)

I'll pay for one of your seats anytime buddy....I'm not sure how I feel
about 300hour ab-initio line pilots.

Other Chris...

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Moon
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from Patrick
Lemonnier

Hi Chris (other one)
I did 6 years of hard labor with US Air Express (CommutAir) out of
Plattsburgh, NY.  The 1900 was a good flying and stable plane and had to
be since you had to hand fly (no a/p) 6 - 8 hours a day.  We used FSI at
LGA over by the Marine Air Terminal.  Too many memories of going down
there for sim checks.  I believe that I have spent many hours cursing
your simulators :)

White, Chris wrote: 

Hey Chris....

Did you get those hours with United Express? We've done quite a few
1900D simulators.  The airplane gets a lot of criticism from Aero guys,
but you know that had to be a major design feat to make it fly so well
considering the rad mod from the 1900C.   Hey enjoyed seeing your Zeque
on the tri-cities website.....nice..................

Take care,

The other Chris....

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Moon
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from Patrick
Lemonnier

I have about 5500 hours in the 1900.  Tough for even it's mother to not
call it ugly, but flies extremely well.

White, Chris wrote: 

Hi Nat...the T-Tail looks kind of like a porcupine...and then I believe
it has delta strakes on the lower part of the aft fuse.  It was a 1900 C
converted to an airliner by raising the cabin & cockpit height.  I don't
have a pic handy, but you can probably do a search on airliners.net and
see what I mean:-)   

Chris

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Nat
Penton
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from Patrick
Lemonnier

Chris, what does the 1900 D look like ?                  Thanks     Nat

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	From: White, Chris <mailto:chris at ssd.fsi.com>  

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	Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:28 AM

	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from
Patrick Lemonnier

	Hi Dean,

	Just curious, but do you think we could learn anything from RAC
about flow dynamics considering all the aerodynamic devices hung on the
Beech 1900 D???:)  

	Chris:-)

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	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Dean
Pappas
	Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:43 AM
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	Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from
Patrick Lemonnier

	Now that is funny!

	Why, you ask? Because just yesterday I was on the phone with
Matt K. and said to him that the vertical part of the flow straightener
(translation for canaliser) was not really necessary. I said that the
basic purpose is to make the airflow track down the length of the
tailcone, rather than spilling around the top, as the plane is yawed.
That improves both pitching behavior and knife edge power. When I get
the needed weather, I will hang a little straightener on the Funtana to
see what happens to its strong push to the belly in K.E. What about
chine strips? I'll have to try that, as they could be less ugly, and
even add structural stiffness.

	later,

	Dean

	Dean Pappas 
	Sr. Design Engineer 
	Kodeos Communications 
	111 Corporate Blvd. 
	South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
	(908) 222-7817 phone 
	(908) 222-2392 fax 
	d.pappas at kodeos.com 

		-----Original Message-----
		From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of
JonLowe at aol.com
		Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:13 PM
		To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
		Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Strange looking plane from
Patrick Lemonnier

		The lastest incarnation of PL Products has a very
strange plane called the Axial.  Take a look.  This makes the
t-canalizer look good by comparison.

		http://www.patricklemonnier.com/

		Jon Lowe

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