[NSRCA-discussion] Futaba 14mz and compact flash card
Rex LESHER
trexlesh at msn.com
Wed Jan 17 17:02:06 AKST 2007
Hey, I got a really cool shirt out of the deal!!! Even has my name on it. Only cost me $2119.09.... not including the second receiver that I needed anyway.
Rex
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Miller<mailto:n444bm at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba 14mz and compact flash card
You have just wittnessed the most vivid example of the Japanese tradition of saving face. It didn't happen. No problem.
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From: Rex LESHER<mailto:trexlesh at msn.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:38 PM
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I started with keeping up with the Futaba Flyers Club Forum where the problem initially became public. Even in the forum they were "NOT" recommending to cut the antenna. Then all of a sudden they said that if you were still having issues with glitches, to try cutting the length to exactly 21.6" from the case. That should solve to problem with excess noise. The next thing they are discussing is that this receiver was designed sensitivity with reguards to reception.... cutting the antenna to the desired length "should" resolve the problem with picking up excessive noise, which was causing the hold problem in the first place. If you look at the forum now, they are discussing at length that all the antennas are coming in the shortened
antenna version. Go figure!!!! All the talk on the forum has entry after entry of guys who cut their antenna and all the problems went away....
It'll work now Don!!!!
One of the other things that came from Japan was mounting the receiver crosswise in the fuse, running the antenna wire on over to the fuse, then running back along the side. This apparantly gives a better cross section of antenna reception from all angles. Supposedly, helps with doing away with possible blank spots...
Rex
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From: AtwoodDon at aol.com<mailto:AtwoodDon at aol.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:10 PM
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Yes, the Futaba site is interesting reading. Last time I looked, they still say "don't cut the antenna unless you are having a problem". Taken another way and not a quote from Futaba, "don't cut the antenna until you crash". Which I did due to lockouts.
My personal opinion is they stick to the original design instructions because admitting they had a design error would mean........well....... admitting they had a design problem. However, they ship all new receivers with a short antenna, go figure.
I have been a long time Futaba customer, and I love my 14MZ transmitter, however, the 5014 rx situation has left a bad taste in my mouth. I cut the antenna and have been flying the original 5014 in a test plane but am having a bit of a problem convincing myself to put it back in my pattern plane.
Don
In a message dated 1/17/2007 4:26:28 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cweimer at tconl.com writes:
I agree you can tell the difference with the 2048 resolution but it is not
enough better to go ahead and fly with the airplane going into hold. My
feeling was that cutting the antenna to 21.6" would probably fix it but then
I heard that it should not be cut. My question is why Futaba said not to cut
the antenna and then they started shipping the receivers with the shorter
antenna?
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ed Miller
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:10 AM
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I've used the R5014DPS receiver in 3 different planes now with no problems.
I did not measure the length of the antennae wire prior to installation.
Both my rx'es have the same length antennae, maybe later tonight I can
remove 1 and measure it's length. You will notice a difference, at least in
a well setup pattern plane going from 1024 to 2048 resolution. I also
noticed the 40% better update rate Futaba claims over the 9Z radios. Other
than the too soft factory stick springs and still too soft factory Futaba
"stiff" springs for the 14mz, I'm very happy with it. I ended up installing
stick springs from a 9Z radio to get the feel I was looking for. I do not
have the part number as I ordered them from Futaba some time ago but I do
remember they were replacement springs for the 9Z. I also purchased a
genuine Sony NP-F570 battery and have used it for both programming and
flying and can record no difference in charge times, Tx on times, etc. The
14mz is a battery hog in programming mode with the backlight on for the
screen, mine will take the battery from 100% to 30% in about 50 minutes if
solely programming.
Ed M.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude Weimer" <cweimer at tconl.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba 14mz and compact flash card
> My question isn't about the card but about the antenna length on the R5014
> receiver. There was an article in RCU about cutting the antenna length to
> 21.6" to solve intermittent holds. Then I read something from Futaba that
> you should not cut the antenna, you should tighten any metal or carbon
> vibration to solve the problem. A friend bought a new radio with that
> receiver and it has the shortened antenna. So my question is if Futaba is
> shipping new receivers with the shorter antenna then why would they
> recommend not cutting the antenna? Holds no matter how short, unnerve me
> to
> the point of not wanting to fly the airplane. I have been using 1024
> receivers with the 14mz radio.
>
> Claude Weimer
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ted Sander
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:03 PM
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba 14mz and compact flash card
>
> Only as a bench test. I had this 2 gig card for a camera, and popped it
> in.
> It all seemed to work just fine. Saved settings, recalled settings, much
> more room for tunes, etc. Didn't test to see if there was a problem with
> a
> large number of files on the card - possible the MZ itself can't display
> beyond a certain number.
> The system doesn't need the card except as storage space - so if the saved
> planes read in to the radio fine, I wouldn't expect any issues. From the
> test, I will experiment once the temperature gets more reasonable for
> flying. Minus 10 last night.....
>
> Ted Sander
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ed Miller
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:11 AM
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> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba 14mz and compact flash card
>
> Has anyone tried a compact flash card in their 14mz other than the factory
> supplied 32MB compact flash card ??
> TIA.....Ed M.
>
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