[NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote

k6xyz k6xyz at sbcglobal.net
Wed Feb 21 06:08:30 AKST 2007 

Ron, I have the same problem. It takes me forever to get anything
done....but I'm getting better!

Regards

Dave Harmon
NSRCA 586
K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
Sperry, Ok.

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:50 AM
To: randy10926 at comtekmail.com; NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote


On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:45 AM, Glenn Hatfield wrote:

> Ah; but the chemist in me needs to experiment.  Let's see time to  
> get out the chemistry set and the lab notebook.  The ^&*$% with  
> handy and dandy.

Ah yes, the guy who takes half an hour to find a five minute way to  
solve a ten minute problem.

Ron Van Putte

>
> From: "wgalligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:07:29 -0600
>
> Couldn't have said it better Mark.
>
> WG
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Atwood" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>
>
>> And the likelihood is that you already have Windex sitting in your  
>> house
>> in
>> a handy dandy ready to use spray bottle.  It's just a matter of
>> convenience.
>> I'm sure there's a variety of formula's that would work, but why  
>> make up
>> something special when a standard household product works so well?
>> AND...for those of us that are married...we probably aren't even  
>> the ones
>> that maintain the supply :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/21/07 8:51 AM, "wgalligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If I remember right I believe Bob Pastorello used to have some  
>>> info on
>>> that
>>> very thought.  I think the Windex dries out a little faster.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Glenn Hatfield" <randy10926 at comtekmail.com>
>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>
>>>
>>>> why not just use an ammonia solution?
>>>>
>>>> --- wgalligan at goodsonacura.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: "wgalligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:31:53 -0600
>>>>
>>>> I think if you use the Windex or any window cleaner that has  
>>>> ammonia in
>>>> it
>>>> that it will make the adhesive set.
>>>>
>>>> Wayne G.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "k6xyz" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:35 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ok....I didn't know it was window cleaner.....I have plenty of  
>>>>> windex
>>>>> though...heh.
>>>>> As long as it works better I'll get some...mebby I'll clean the  
>>>>> windows
>>>>> too....or not!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey...are you going to the NATS again?
>>>>> If so, mebby we can do it again and you can stay longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>>> NSRCA 586
>>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>> Burks
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:09 PM
>>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey old partner:  Yes Cinch a product of Proctor and Gamble  
>>>>> ( window
>>>>> cleaner) it seems to attach the monokote glue a little better.   
>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> k6xyz wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Lynn....great to hear from you again!
>>>>>> I've never heard of that stuff but I'll keep it in mind.
>>>>>> Hopefully, the cold weather is done.....I've had enough of  
>>>>>> that for
>>>>>> awhile...a LONG while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>>>> NSRCA 586
>>>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  
>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>> Burks
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:01 AM
>>>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Dave: I have used Cinch ( in orange bottle) with good  
>>>>>> results. Is
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> warming up back there yet. Lynn
>>>>>>
>>>>>> k6xyz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a bottle of some kind of liquid to attach MK over MK  
>>>>>>> but I've
>>>>>>> never tried it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone used it and how did you like it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>>>>> NSRCA 586
>>>>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf  
>>>>>>> Of *Mark
>>>>>>> Atwood
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:04 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can it be too cold to build???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Windex is definitely the best of those three. I've had very good
>>>>>>> results with even semi large pieces (maybe 4" wide...anything  
>>>>>>> wider
>>>>>>> and I'll typically only do one layer). Don't skimp on the  
>>>>>>> windex.
>>>>>>> Both
>>>>>>> layers of monokote have to be clean...any dust will show up  
>>>>>>> as a bump
>>>>>>> under the film. I coat both the piece I'm putting down, as  
>>>>>>> well as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> surface I'm putting it on, with a brush. Spraying it doesn't get
>>>>>>> enough on (unless you go crazy) and just creates a million air
>>>>>>> bubbles
>>>>>>> rather than a smooth film of liquid. I have it sloppy wet...then
>>>>>>> slide
>>>>>>> the pieces into position, and I use a small 4" shower  
>>>>>>> squeegee to
>>>>>>> squeeze the windex out. You'll have zero bubbles...and it  
>>>>>>> will adhere
>>>>>>> from suction pretty aggressively. Yes...you'll have a wet  
>>>>>>> mess so a
>>>>>>> few paper towels are in order. Wait at least 24 hours and  
>>>>>>> then use an
>>>>>>> iron set just warm enough to anchor Monokote to Monokote  
>>>>>>> without any
>>>>>>> shrinking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you heat it too soon (same day) there's enough moisture still
>>>>>>> trapped between the two layers that you'll vaporize it and  
>>>>>>> cause a
>>>>>>> bazillion bubbles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/18/07 12:55 PM, "Ed White" <edvwhite at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, Question for those finding it too cold to build. Is it  
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> put monokote on top of monokote and get decent results? Tried  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> poke
>>>>>>> holes and windex/soap methods and not impressed with the  
>>>>>>> results. Any
>>>>>>> other ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> */ORLANDO FRETS <ojfrets at earthlink.net>/* wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Temperature in low 30's. It's cold! It's also too cold to  
>>>>>>> build, shop
>>>>>>> is cold. Stay inside where it's warm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ORLANDO FRETS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ojfrets at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>
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