[NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote

Glenn Hatfield randy10926 at comtekmail.com
Wed Feb 21 05:45:23 AKST 2007


Ah; but the chemist in me needs to experiment.  Let's see time to get out the chemistry set and the lab notebook.  The ^&*$% with handy and dandy.

Randy

--- wgalligan at goodsonacura.com wrote:

From: "wgalligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:07:29 -0600

Couldn't have said it better Mark.

WG

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Atwood" <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote


> And the likelihood is that you already have Windex sitting in your house
> in
> a handy dandy ready to use spray bottle.  It's just a matter of
> convenience.
> I'm sure there's a variety of formula's that would work, but why make up
> something special when a standard household product works so well?
> AND...for those of us that are married...we probably aren't even the ones
> that maintain the supply :)
>
>
>
>
> On 2/21/07 8:51 AM, "wgalligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com> wrote:
>
>> If I remember right I believe Bob Pastorello used to have some info on
>> that
>> very thought.  I think the Windex dries out a little faster.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glenn Hatfield" <randy10926 at comtekmail.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 7:35 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>
>>
>>> why not just use an ammonia solution?
>>>
>>> --- wgalligan at goodsonacura.com wrote:
>>>
>>> From: "wgalligan" <wgalligan at goodsonacura.com>
>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:31:53 -0600
>>>
>>> I think if you use the Windex or any window cleaner that has ammonia in
>>> it
>>> that it will make the adhesive set.
>>>
>>> Wayne G.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "k6xyz" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:35 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ok....I didn't know it was window cleaner.....I have plenty of windex
>>>> though...heh.
>>>> As long as it works better I'll get some...mebby I'll clean the windows
>>>> too....or not!
>>>>
>>>> Hey...are you going to the NATS again?
>>>> If so, mebby we can do it again and you can stay longer.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>> NSRCA 586
>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Lynn
>>>> Burks
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:09 PM
>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>
>>>> Hey old partner:  Yes Cinch a product of Proctor and Gamble ( window
>>>> cleaner) it seems to attach the monokote glue a little better.  Lynn
>>>>
>>>> k6xyz wrote:
>>>>> Hi Lynn....great to hear from you again!
>>>>> I've never heard of that stuff but I'll keep it in mind.
>>>>> Hopefully, the cold weather is done.....I've had enough of that for
>>>>> awhile...a LONG while.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>>> NSRCA 586
>>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Lynn
>>>>> Burks
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:01 AM
>>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Dave: I have used Cinch ( in orange bottle) with good results. Is
>>>>> it
>>>>> warming up back there yet. Lynn
>>>>>
>>>>> k6xyz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a bottle of some kind of liquid to attach MK over MK but I've
>>>>>> never tried it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone used it and how did you like it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave Harmon
>>>>>> NSRCA 586
>>>>>> K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
>>>>>> Sperry, Ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of *Mark
>>>>>> Atwood
>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 18, 2007 2:04 PM
>>>>>> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Monokote on Monokote
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can it be too cold to build???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windex is definitely the best of those three. I've had very good
>>>>>> results with even semi large pieces (maybe 4" wide...anything wider
>>>>>> and I'll typically only do one layer). Don't skimp on the windex.
>>>>>> Both
>>>>>> layers of monokote have to be clean...any dust will show up as a bump
>>>>>> under the film. I coat both the piece I'm putting down, as well as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> surface I'm putting it on, with a brush. Spraying it doesn't get
>>>>>> enough on (unless you go crazy) and just creates a million air
>>>>>> bubbles
>>>>>> rather than a smooth film of liquid. I have it sloppy wet...then
>>>>>> slide
>>>>>> the pieces into position, and I use a small 4" shower squeegee to
>>>>>> squeeze the windex out. You'll have zero bubbles...and it will adhere
>>>>>> from suction pretty aggressively. Yes...you'll have a wet mess so a
>>>>>> few paper towels are in order. Wait at least 24 hours and then use an
>>>>>> iron set just warm enough to anchor Monokote to Monokote without any
>>>>>> shrinking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you heat it too soon (same day) there's enough moisture still
>>>>>> trapped between the two layers that you'll vaporize it and cause a
>>>>>> bazillion bubbles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/18/07 12:55 PM, "Ed White" <edvwhite at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, Question for those finding it too cold to build. Is it possible
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> put monokote on top of monokote and get decent results? Tried the
>>>>>> poke
>>>>>> holes and windex/soap methods and not impressed with the results. Any
>>>>>> other ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> */ORLANDO FRETS <ojfrets at earthlink.net>/* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Temperature in low 30's. It's cold! It's also too cold to build, shop
>>>>>> is cold. Stay inside where it's warm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ORLANDO FRETS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ojfrets at earthlink.net
>>>>>>
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