[NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern
Ron Van Putte
vanputte at cox.net
Sat Dec 22 11:43:55 AKST 2007
Hmmmm, I never thought of blaming my radio's resolution for my bad
flying. Let's see now..........
Ron Van Putte
On Dec 22, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Jerry Stebbins wrote:
> Ron, that jus goes to show that there is not a lot of difference
> between golf and pattern flying!!
> Jerry
> Sounds like some young entropeneur otta git wif them n build up
> some new radioos for us ol fellas, and maybe udders.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Van Putte
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern
>
> My "local R/C electronic techie' responded after I forwarded the
> below e-mail to him. Some of you may remember him; he's Curt
> Oberg, a pretty fair Pattern competitor himself. He's what Curt said:
>
> "Ron, yep, the MP8K is alive and doing well. A few days ago, a
> single stick was listed on eBay and the last bid was for $360.
> Don’t know what it ended up being sold for. As far as using the
> Futuba/Jr modules with the MP8K, lots of guys are doing that all
> ready. The legality of using them on 72mhz has been widely
> discussed but many of the MP8K users have HAM licenses and operate
> on 6 meters so it’s not an issue for them. A lot of them are also
> in use overseas. Several of the MP8K owners have converted their
> systems to 2.4 gig and Dan Thompson in Kentucky is actively
> pursuing making it compatible with all the different versions.
>
> "As far as the comment that it would not be suitable for pattern
> because it’s only 256 resolution, I think that the resolution of
> the thumbs resting on the sticks is even lower than that,
> certainly in my age group. When I was working and still playing an
> occasional round of golf, I had a co-worker that was buying a new
> set of golf clubs after just taking up the game. He shopped
> around, looking at different brands of golf clubs and one day he
> showed me a brochure of his final choice for a new set of clubs.
> The brochure claimed that their clubs were dynamically balanced,
> harmonically tuned, perfectly fitted, etc. and I told him that I
> would never buy those clubs because it would reinforce the fact
> that I just suck at the game of golf every time I hit a bad shot,
> which was fairly often.
>
> Curt
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Ron Van Putte wrote:
>
>> Yes, I remember now. My local R/C electronic techie raved about
>> your MicroStar encoder.
>>
>> Ron Van Putte
>>
>> On Dec 22, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Gordon Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> Ron,
>>>
>>> There is a Yahoo email list and a good size group of subscribers,
>>> MP8K at yahoogroups.com. A fellow named Dan Thompson has has the
>>> MicroPro source code and has developed a few upgrades to the
>>> transmitter.
>>> You can see my developments at www.mstar2k.com. I designed and
>>> built an encoder that is similar to the MicroPro, I call it a
>>> MicroStar. Mine has 1024 resolution where the MicroPro is limited
>>> to 256. About 100 or so MicroStars have been built, its a pretty
>>> small group of electronics geeks. The Yahoo list caters to both
>>> groups.
>>> I have also designed a receiver and a few other items, all on my
>>> web site.
>>>
>>> --Gordon
>>>
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
>>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 8:30 AM
>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern
>>>
>>> I was talking with a local R/C electronic techie a couple of days
>>> ago. He built one of the Micropro systems years ago and he still
>>> uses it. Apparently there's a "support group" for these radios.
>>> There are repair and service items and even new "stuff" is
>>> available from a few sources via a url that I could find out, but
>>> didn't at the time.
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On Dec 22, 2007, at 8:16 AM, John Ferrell wrote:
>>>
>>>> FWIW, I am with you all the way on this issue.
>>>> It is unfortunate that the Micropro was killed in its infancy.
>>>> The auto trim feature seems like a no brainer to me.
>>>> The rubber duck antenna was handy as well.
>>>> If the legal aspects would permit it I believe it might be
>>>> practical to build a MicroPro type radio with Futaba and/or JR
>>>> RF modules.
>>>> Another neat feature it had was that you only needed to transmit
>>>> the channels you were using. I cannot remember if that permitted
>>>> a higher update rate for the servos.
>>>> John Ferrell W8CCW
>>>> "Life is easier if you learn to plow
>>>> around the stumps"
>>>> http://DixieNC.US
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Bob Richards
>>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 5:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern
>>>>
>>>> Ok, my 2CW.
>>>> I really like the idea of the USB connector. Hmmm, not a new
>>>> idea, really, I could do that with my Ace Micropro back in 1992.
>>>> Could save all the airplane programs onto computer disk via a
>>>> serial port. Could pull up the program information on the
>>>> computer and edit the values (although it was not a GUI
>>>> interface, it was still nice).
>>>> Another thing would be program independent buddy box capability.
>>>> In other words, the slave transmitter need only to send the
>>>> stick positions to the master radio. That information would then
>>>> be applied to the program in the master radio. No need to make
>>>> sure the slave and master radios are operating with the same
>>>> program. Hmmm, again, not really a new idea, I could do that
>>>> with the Micropro radio back in 1992. :-)
>>>> Autotrim. Lets say you have just taken off with an airplane that
>>>> is out of trim. Instead of fumbling around for multiple trim
>>>> levers (or buttons) you just press one button and keep flying
>>>> the plane straight and level. The autotrim function will apply
>>>> trim changes automatically to any of the the three flight
>>>> channels so that the sticks slowly move back to neutral. Again,
>>>> the Micropro had that feature.
>>>> I liked a lot of the features of the old Micropro radio, my big
>>>> complaint was that it was only 256 resolution. That alone was
>>>> reason not to use it in pattern.
>>>> As for the 2.4 ghz using the internal antenna connection, that
>>>> is not likely to happen on the old radios. I like the fact that
>>>> I can swap the module with a 72 mhz module and not have to
>>>> fumble with mounting an antenna with an external cable.
>>>> I have flown Futaba for over 20 years, and have had good
>>>> service. However, I wish there was better support/marketing in
>>>> my area of the country. We had a huge fly-in last year (Fly-for-
>>>> Tots) with over 200 registered pilots. Horizon/JR sent lots of
>>>> stuff, including sponsered pilots to fly demos. Futaba did send
>>>> a couple of flags and items for the raffle, but it was a hugh
>>>> disparity with what Horizon/JR did. I am in a distinct minority
>>>> in my club since most of the guys fly JR, so I caught a lot of
>>>> crap as a result.
>>>> Just my 2CW.
>>>> Bob R.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Futaba is looking for some new product ideas for upcoming
>>>> equipment and they are interested in seeing what ideas we all
>>>> have for the pattern arena that could be new and inventive. This
>>>> could be anything from updating current equipment to new product
>>>> development.
>>>> If you could put some thoughts together in an email to me, I'll
>>>> make sure that they're sent to Futaba USA's attention. I'll need
>>>> to have this back no later than the end of the year!
>>>> Thanks!
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