[NSRCA-discussion] Are we behind the times?

[Woodward, Jim]

I heard a story from this years nats where one of the Advanced
competitors that was in contention flew a less-than-perfect maneuver,
and another pilot who was also in contention (and watching) yelled out
an inappropriate remark.  I think that audience input or influence is
something we should steer away from for precision aerobatics.  We
certainly do not need it to be quiet like for golf, but direct
statements meant to be heard by the judges are not good.

 

Although slightly off topic - what I do think we should do is post all
raw scores every flight for every pilot (I think this is done for the
WC).  I think this would provide the following opportunities:

1.	The availability of the raw scores would in itself represent and
INCREDIBLE judges training tool.  Seasoned and new competitor alike
could watch flights together, make comments and discuss, then go back
later and see if what they thought they saw was in line with the scores
for that flight.  There is all kinds of opportunity here to facilitate
judging training (.. ideas welcome).
2.	Posting of raw scores would allow "judges" to after-the-fact see
how they performed compared to their judging partners.  There is all
kinds of good value that could come from this.  Whether noted privately
or discussed between each other, it is good from time to time to check
yourself.
3.	Posting of raw scores would help keep the honest man honest.  By
posting raw scores, I think there would be a reduction of bias any way
you cut it:  Santa-Clausing, Low-balling, "teams", regionality, or other
bias' would be removed/reduced if the person knew ahead of time that the
judges scores would be posted.
4.	And most importantly, increased "transparency" in the system
helps the seasoned and new comer alike understand the process of the
contest, scoring, and "how" the 1000, 900, or 800's came to be.  I
believe that no matter whom you are, you want to leave a contest and
feel like you (& everyone) was dealt a fair hand.  Transparency is the
key to this.  
5.	OK - last one - it takes "scoring" which is a topic of much
discussion during and after a pattern contest in case you haven't heard,
away from a shadowy discussion, and brings to the open this topic which
everyone is already discussing.  This would do a lot to remove
ammunition from the conspiracy theorist and such whom all of our
districts have.  Transparency is good :-) 

 

I write none of this from the sour-grapes perspective.  I love this
stuff.  I think the potential benefits from posting the raws would out
weight the potential bad, provide more transparency for the competitor
and also provide judges training.

 

Thanks,

Jim W.

 

 


 
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of JShulman
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Are we behind the times?

 

Probably the best reason not to have it...lol. It's bad enough when we
screw-up... I mean when a pilot screws-up and you hear all the
OOOooooohhhhhhhhhhhh's from the crowd. Now just imagine the uproar when
someone gets judged for a maneuver that they are doing all wrong! Total
Chaos!

 

Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com 

	On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz

	can you just imagine all the "oohhhss and aahhhs" from the
spectators.  :)
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