[NSRCA-discussion] A bit of nostalgia and BPA

Courtney, Gary Ray grcourtney at tva.gov
Sun Aug 26 19:56:48 AKDT 2007


august won't be hot next year I promiss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
gary

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of JShulman
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:41 PM
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Does it have to be August again???????
 

Regards,
Jason
www.jasonshulman.com
www.shulmanaviation.com
www.composite-arf.com 

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	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Courtney, Gary Ray
	Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:29 PM
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	geography can be an obstacle
	 
	 
	gary

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	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
	Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 9:25 PM
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	If there were a BPA event closer to home then I would definitely come play :-)

	Stuart

	 

	
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	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Courtney, Gary Ray
	Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:19 PM
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	Next Aug there will be another BPA contest in Huntsville AL., It was allot of fun this year even with the 100+ temp to put down the 2m plane and pick up a old 60 size and just fly for fun. For me the joy was getting beat by Don Lowe try as I might not to, the smile on his face the whole weekend was priceless. And of coarse watching Jason put my XLT through a SLOOOOOOOOOOOW role down the runway very low to the ground was great also. We (I) am not looking to replace my AMA flying,it is just relaxing to break out an old design after the rigors of practice and flying in the nats and just go fly and hang out not that flying AMA isn't fun but the self imposed pressure just doesn't seem to be there for me.

	 

	So Stuart come to HSV next Aug and bring your Atlanta, next year is looking to be even a better event.

	 

	 

	gary

	 

	
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	From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
	Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:37 PM
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	I finally took out my Atlanta after over a year of my son asking.  I kept using the excuse that I needed to check the fuel tank etc.

	Now the Atlanta came out in the late 80's and was designed for AMA or now Ballistic Pattern.  Initially mine was set up for a standard short stroke YS 60, Hattori pipe (627 I think), and Rev-Up 11-7 or so.  Eventually I went to a longer pipe setting and higher pitch prop to cut back on noise. D&W (remember them) 11-9 wide.  I still have a bunch.  Same speed but less noise as the early noise regulations came into effect.  Home made soft mounts on the motor as well.  A Dean Pappas design.  I do not think commercial ones were available yet.

	Servos in it are Futaba 133's on ailerons, 131S on rudder and 31S on Elevator.  Felt much slower than current models (running at 6 volts)

	Once we went to turn around I remember trying to slow the plane down.  Some people who were much better at throttle management than I (I only had a two position throttle) were able to make the Atlanta "work" in turn around.  The engine was changed to a pumped OS 60 long stroke, Hatori 650 pipe and full length header.  And, of course bigger props.  Currently an Asano 11½  - 11½ sits on there.  
	
	I must have cleaned the engine out before storing it.  Last time it flew had to be around 1991 or 92.  I also took it apart earlier this year when I went over the plane.  Took quite few turns of the prop to get fuel through the pump and  into the carburetor but it started on the second backwards snap.  Talk about impressing the couple of guys at the field.  It hadn't run in 15 years and started right away.  Once the high speed needle was adjusted it ran perfectly as well.

	Took off and needed a few clicks of aileron.  Whatever settings and mixes I had back then were long lost. (I think I had the original Futaba 512 PCM radio in it.)

	Talk about fast! And this was after changes to slow it down to try to fly turn around.  I can't imagine how fast it was originally with the YS short stroke 60.  

	Quite a difference from the 2M plane I have been flying (which is electric as well)

	Now interestingly I received comments on how smooth it looked.  More so than my current plane.  It didn't feel that way to me, but I guess the perception of a plane at jet like speeds doing rolling maneuvers is different from our current flying.  Made me wonder if people were more impressed and therefore more attracted to the old style pattern than the current one?

	Also interesting were people commenting on the strip ailerons, tiny in comparison to most planes made today.  (they also didn't believe that you had to build it and paint it :-) )

	It will probably be quite a while before it flies again but it was fun.

	Stuart Chale

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