[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'

Fri Aug 24 05:29:20 AKDT 2007

Mark,
Can you tell me more about your pattern primer.  Sounds like it might make
for a great club meeting program.

Thanks,
Bob

On 8/23/07, Insightrc <flyintexan at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  I had the pleasure of meeting Jack Li at the Nats.  Very polite and a YS
> wiz.
>
> Good to have you back Bob.
>
> We have held a pattern primer each year for the past three and it has
> produced a couple of active pattern pilots.  Moreso, it has given pattern a
> favorable name in our club...allowing us to hold a yearly pattern meet
> without a hitch.
>
> -mark
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Bob Wilson <wilsorc at gmail.com>
>  *To:* NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2007 8:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship
> Syndrome?Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
>
>
>
> Insights from a long time RC flyer who has just joined NSRCA.
>
> Most RC pilots don't understand pattern and don't want to look bad.  It's
> easy to flippity-flop all over the sky, but disciplined flying is tough.
> No one has ever required them to fly a straight line parallel to the
> runway.  Anything other than a loop or roll is alien.   Humpty's,
> Top-Hats, Figure M, Cobra…you might as well talk Swahili.  If NSRCA is
> going to address falling membership they need to educate the RC community at
> the ground level.   At the Peoria RC Modelers we are trying hard to
> promote pattern.  Most exciting, however, is a young man from China (Jack
> Li) who joined our club.   Jack is 16 and practiced pattern in China.  This
> year he competed in "Intermediate" at Hoffman Estates and won first place.  His
> subsequent visit to the NATS resulted in an Intermediate 2nd place.  Next
> year he will be competing at the "Masters" level.  Our club is taking a
> new look at Pattern and beginning to wake up.  A recent club "Mini
> Pattern" event had 10 competitors.  Hopefully, we will build on this and
> get more people into serious competition, but we really feel that education
> and emphasis on the Sportsman sequence is the key to bringing in new blood.
>
>
>
> Bob Wilson
>
> VP
>
> Peoria RC Modelers
>
>
> On 8/22/07, John Gayer <jgghome at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Del,
> >
> > Having sold advertising(a lot) when I ran a radio station, I can tell
> > you that the customers need to be constantly resold on a product that is
> > clearly in their best interests.
> > This also means selling on the basis that the advertising works, not as
> > charity support for the NSRCA. Feedback to the advertisers is also key to
> > keeping an advertiser on-board. We as members need find a way to mention the
> > K-Factor whenever you buy something and to make sure that you know who is
> > currrently advertising.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Del K. Rykert wrote:
> >
> >  I suspect is mostly because of lack of support or don't have the
> > resources/time or health to commit to office. What I haven't seen is a
> > change in the numbers no matter how positive the attitudes are of the
> > officers and leaders. A few years ago when I tried to bring up the
> > perception of a known problem in my mind I was told to be quiet as we are
> > making changes and things will improve.  That was years ago..  How many more
> > years will it take? I still see a continuing decline with some insisting it
> > is only a local thing thinking as their area/district is growing so
> > therefore no problem. If I don't see a change to the positive I have to
> > assume the efforts on everyone's part hasn't truly addressed the issues. I
> > fully realize all about "* assuming*". So if the true goal is to draw
> > new blood and grow the ranks then the efforts have to be shifted to focus
> > the few resources the organization does have to focus more efforts to draw
> > the new blood. If the advertisers were truly onboard they would be there
> > year after year..  Not need further enticements to return to placing an ad.
> >
> >
> > *None of my comments are meant to infer all the efforts of all parties
> > hasn't been commendable in their efforts to address the problem. The results
> > are what I still feel need to be addressed. Survey the potential wannabes.
> > If no wannabe exist then we are left with what we have. *
> >
> >    * Del    *
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Steven Maxwell <patternrules at yahoo.com>
> > *To:* NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?
> > Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
> >
> >
> >  Have to agree with John and Mike on this, this adminstation has only
> > been in office a few months and nothing happens over night.
> >  The other thing I always see is people with ideas but never see there
> > name on a ballet if people are really want to make a difference and they
> > have all the better ways why do we see unopposed ballets.
> >  Steve Maxwell
> >
> > *mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com> <mups1953 at yahoo.com>* wrote:
> >
> >  Very well stated JLK. I have been in pattern for a very longtime and I
> > can tell you that the leaders we have right now are taking us in a positive
> > direction. I have a lot of faith in them. It will take some patience but I
> > think there are a lot of positive things in place.
> >  This forum is an open discussion of ideas and thoughts some are
> > agreeable some are not. Either way its it important that everyone be heard.
> > If there's a new concept that has merit then in time the group will adopt
> > it.
> >  The biggest problem that I see with our sport is the lack of younger
> > people getting in. We need new blood ASAP.        Mike
> >
> > *John Konneker <jlkonn at hotmail.com> <jlkonn at hotmail.com>* wrote:
> >
> > If I may.
> > As a lot of you know I am the ad manager for the K-Factor.
> > It is my goal to bring enough advertisers on board to make the K-Factor
> > self
> > supporting.
> > I believe that goal is achievable.
> > I just prepared the invoicing for the July issue and total billings,
> > month
> > to month, are increasing.
> > We have a great bunch of advertisers already that have been very
> > supportive
> > of the NSRCA.
> > Please support them whenever you can.
> > I contact potential advertisers all the time.
> > If you have any you'd like to suggest please let me know.
> > If you have personal contact with any and think you can get them
> > interested,
> > by all means talk to them.
> > Ron Davies is doing a great job as treasurer and reports on the NSRCA
> > finances every month in his K-Factor column.
> > Through these reports you can see it's not just members dues that
> > generate
> > the operating income of the NSRCA.
> > As an aside I flew the Nats this year.
> > Derek invited me to the NSRCA board meeting held on Tuesday night.
> > I had been out of RC since the late '80s and only started pattern again
> > last
> > year.
> > I can't tell you how impressed I was with the officers.
> > Everyone, without exception, has the advancement of pattern in their
> > hearts.
> > Everyone, without exception, was positive in their attitude.
> > There were no hidden agendas.
> > No "us" vs "them".
> > >From Derek on down we have a great bunch!
> > JLK
> >
> >
> > >From: "Del K. Rykert"
> > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > >To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
> > >Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome? Please
> > >review'NSRCAMembers'
> > >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:54 -0400
> > >
> > >I truly hear you message loud and clear John. Do you have any further
> > >suggestions, as many don't want to look at some of the changes that
> > have
> > >been proposed? I know it has been discussed on the list to degree of
> > >making some just deleting post without even reading them. Either they
> > don't
> > >care or don't want to hear it. Hate to be so sinister to assume they
> > want
> > >to see the NSRCA fail. I hope.
> > >
> > > Del
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: John Gayer
> > > To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:51 PM
> > > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please review 'NSRCAMembers'
> > >
> > >
> > > The attached Chart is based on numbers on the NSRCA website and the
> > >treasurer's report in the latest K-Factor. If the membership continues
> > to
> > >reject any thoughts or proposals that might help, I see this downward
> > slide
> > > continuing. We are currently on the verge of being unable to afford
> > >producing the K-Factor which is about the only reason to stay on.
> > >
> > > I tried to post this several days ago with an inline chart but the
> > size
> > >was 4K oversize for the list parameters. It's been awaiting approval of
> > the
> > >moderator.
> > >
> > > John Gayer
> > > NSRCA 632
> > >
> > >
> >
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