[NSRCA-discussion] Hello: Stirring up the Masters 2009Sequencediscussionagain...

Lance Van Nostrand patterndude at tx.rr.com
Thu Aug 16 20:25:48 AKDT 2007


I have a rules proposal form filled out. here's your chance to really make a 
difference.  Please tell me if this proposal will make it better.
--Lance

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lance Van Nostrand" <patterndude at tx.rr.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Stirring up the Masters 
2009Sequencediscussionagain...


>I have considered all the proposals and am unsatisfied.  Ideally we could
> make use of a national database but lacking that I have a simple 
> adjustment
> to the current system: let people stay in a class for at least 2 years
> regardless of their performance.
>
> This addresses both the occasional pilot that doesn't want to be penalized
> for a good performance in Sportsman, and the very active pilot that
> accumulates a lot of points quickly, is getting lots of practice, but is 
> not
> yet ready to move up.  Yes this could be abused, but that is what Earl is
> for.
>
> If this were officially proposed would you support it as an improvement?
> Please really think about all the other ideas and how they'd work in large
> and small districts, with pilots of varying skill and motivation, etc.
> --Lance
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com>
> To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 3:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Stirring up the Masters 2009Sequence
> discussionagain...
>
>
>>
>> Glen,
>> You are spot on.  I have competed in Advanced just this season, and
>> have 70 points with several district contests left in 2007.  I finished
>> 5th at the Nats, but was never really in contention to finish higher.
>> District 3 has a lot of competitors in advanced.  I'm a decent but not
>> great pilot in advanced right now, so I've gathered more points than I
>> would have in a smaller district. Do I feel at all ready to move to
>> Masters?  Absolutely not.  Therefore, I am going to sit out contests
>> this year so I don't point out.  Or I might fly the FAI P07 at a couple
>> of contests just for giggles.  The jump right now between Advanced and
>> Masters is just too big right now for me, and the current advanced
>> pattern does not properly prepare you for Masters.
>>
>> Jon Lowe
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Glen Watson <gwatson11 at houston.rr.com>
>> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:43 am
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Stirring up the Masters 2009Sequence
>> discussionagain...
>>
>>
>>
>> Is the issue that competitors are forced by the current AMA regulations
>> to
>> move up thru the classes via a point system whether a competitor feels
>> ready
>> or not?
>>
>> Just mastering a maneuver is not enough.  Being able to manage
>> positioning
>> throughout an entire sequence regardless of weather conditions is a
>> major
>> task which becomes more challenging as maneuver complexity and
>> difficultly
>> increases.  A good example is the Figure M.  I witnessed many
>> competitors
>> during the prelims at the NATS not able to sustain proper track and
>> positioning in the cross/quartering winds we experienced. They would
>> begin
>> at 150-175 meters and finish at 80 meters from being blown in.
>> Practice can
>> address this however as I read here in previous posts not all have the
>> time
>> they wish to practice.
>>
>> The current point system for Intermediate and Advanced is based on a 4
>> year
>> cumulative total although one could point out in a single year from
>> attending enough well attended contests. A potential issue here in
>> District
>> 6 for example. Does this make someone ready for the next class?
>>
>> If a pattern enthusiast has limited time to enable them to be
>> comfortable
>> flying a particular class why make it mandatory to move up.  If the
>> point
>> system criterion was revised in such a manner to reset each year and
>> force
>> only top consistent place finishers to move up that would provide more
>> time
>> for those with limit time to hone the skills necessary to be comfortable
>> moving on to the next class.  In addition I feel this raises the
>> competitive
>> bar in Intermediate and Advanced having more experience competitors
>> within
>> the ranks.
>>
>> Glen
>>
>>
>>
>>
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