[NSRCA-discussion] Natural Progression

Ken Thompson mrandmrst at comcast.net
Tue Aug 14 20:36:02 AKDT 2007



  Fred,

  I just looked up the Sportsman sequence in Australian Pattern,


        
       SPORTSMAN 2006
        
       

       
       
        
       
         
        
       Pilots name
       K-Factor
       
         
        
        
        
       
        1
       U
       Take off sequence, climb out, 90 degree turn out
       1
       
        2
       U
       Double Immelman, half rolls
       2
       
        3
       D
       Slow Roll
       3
       
        4
       U
       Two consecutive loops
       3
       
        5
       D
       Two consecutive rolls
       3
       
        6
       U
       Top hat with 1/2 roll up & down
       3
       
        7
       D
       Two outside loops
       4
       
        8
       U
       Square loop on corner
       3
       
        9
       D
       Inverted flight
       2
       
        10
       U
       Stall turn, 1/4 roll up & down
       2
       
        11
       D
       Cuban 8, with half rolls
       3
       
        12
       U
       Two turn spin
       2
       
        13
       U
       Landing sequence, turn onto runway, landing
       1
       
         
        
        
        
       
         
        
       K-Factor
       32
       
         
        
       With the compliments of the APA
        
       
         
        
       January 1, 2006
        
       


  no turnaround maneuvers,

  Ken
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ken Thompson 
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    Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:19 PM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Natural Progression


    True, however Fred is describing the turn-around maneuvers of the AMA Sporstman sequence.;-)
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: DoWayne Gould 
      To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' 
      Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:59 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Natural Progression


      Tom is also describing the classes and sequences from down under in the land of OZ

      Dowayne

       


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      From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ken Thompson
      Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:46 PM
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      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Natural Progression

       

      Everything you state is correct except for one thing, a double immelman can only have horizontal lines as long as the diameter of the half loops.  To have the inverted section run the length of the box would make some seriously tall half loops.

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Fred Huber 

        To: NSRCA Mailing List 

        Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:36 PM

        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Natural Progression

         

        I think that Sportsman DOES have scored turnarounds... the half Cuban... half reverse... stall turn... Split S...  double-immelman without rolls  (Essentially can be a half loop at each end of the box with a long inverted ... )

         

         

        Just because there are 2 UNJUDGED turn around manevers of the pilot's choice... does not make it "no turn around"

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Koenig, Tom 

          To: NSRCA Mailing List 

          Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 7:07 PM

          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Natural Progression

           

          Claude and all,

           

          We have four classes: 

           

          Sportsman ( no turn around) entry level

          Advanced ( turnaround)

          Expert ( feeder to FAI)

          FAI

           

          We probably have quite a jump from Advanced to Expert as expert is a watered down FAI.  Our National average is derived from FAI class only. The promotional values  for the relevant classes are simply a percentage value of that National average. 

           

          Sportsman is aimed at the 'club' flyer, and even a decent trainer will fly it no problem. Presently, I could not really say wether it is more challenging or not than what you fly in the US. We too have our organisational, cultural challenges!

           

          As I stated yesterday, we are currently sorting out the new schedules for 09. We are dropping the judging of landing and takeoffs in all classes-as it no longer bears relevance to the FAI schedules.

           

          I guess, we have a Global outlook and do what we can to play with, and remain relevant  with what the rest of the world is doing?

           

          Its a tough one!!

           

          Tom

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