[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

Mon Apr 30 12:34:31 AKDT 2007

The real question the AMA and the NSRCA needs to ask and have truthfully 
answered is if a reduction in the pattern Nats ( just like pattern coverage 
in MA ) is instituted by reducing the numbers of contestants to "qualifying 
contestants only" or by any other means, will the AMA and NSRCA loose 
members ?? I think so, at least one, me.  Sounds to me that some want the 
"national flying site", which is paid for by all AMA members has pressure to 
morph into just a really premier flying site for Muncie residents.  Fact is 
most AMA members will never get the opportunity to enjoy Muncie, personally 
my only visit was in '06 to compete in pattern although I intend to compete 
again in '08. Make it so that I have to qualify to compete in Muncie and the 
NSRCA doesn't fight this tooth and nail, I can see my NSRCA membership 
ending as well as self insuring my flying activities, read bye AMA.
Ed M.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Stillman" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1


> Ok.. .you asked for a need. here it is..
>
>
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> The Executive Council is always pressed by sport fliers as to why funds
> should be spent on less than 1% of the membership to allow for a site for 
> a
> Nats, as well as the staff support and equipment support required to run
> these events.  The Nats takes up 6 weeks of prime flying time for Muncie.
> Other groups would like to use that time for events as well.  The Nats
> operates in the red every year.
>
>
>
> So, if we reduced the number of days required to have a Nats, that would
> reduce costs as well.  How do we reduce the number of days required to run
> the pattern Nats?  Do we just increase the entry fee to take care of all 
> of
> the costs so the sport fliers can then be told that the competition pilots
> "pay their own way"?  Do we (the EC) just ignore them and hope they go 
> away?
>
>
>
> I am a BIG fan of competition and the Nats.  However, I can tell all of 
> you
> that many on the EC don't give a rat's behind about competition or the 
> Nats.
> I am trying to represent competition and how important it has been in the
> past and will be in the future.
>
>
>
> So, how does NSRCA handle it if we get cut to a 2-day even for the Pattern
> Nats?
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> Tony Stillman, President
>
> Radio South
>
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd
>
> Pensacola, FL 32505
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
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>
>
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> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hester
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:37 PM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
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>
>
> ok, then one more:
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>
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> if it ain't broke, why fix it? Is there some underlying problem that we
> aren't aware of? I'm just not seeing the need I guess. if it were a vote,
> I'd definitely vote NOT to have to qualify for the Nats.
>
>
>
> -Mike
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>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: Tony Stillman <mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com>
>
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:07 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
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> John:
> I realize that this is a different approach and that there are lots of
> opinions.  That is all I am asking for.
>
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> Tony Stillman, President
>
> Radio South
>
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd
>
> Pensacola, FL 32505
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>
>
>
>
>  _____
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> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Ferrell
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 11:32 AM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
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> Flame suit on, cannons loaded and ready...
>
>
>
> If you really want a good answer, ask the guys who are competing at Muncie
> this year.
>
>
>
> If you want to justify a position already decided, survey the population
> that will give you the answer you want!
>
>
>
> No offense intended.
>
>
>
> Why would you want to curtail the most successful segment of the Nats?
> Without the Nats, there is little point in maintaining Muncie.
>
>
>
> (BTW, considering the source, I think you are shopping for ammunition 
> rather
> than an argument!)
>
>
>
> John Ferrell    W8CCW
> "Life is easier if you learn to plow
>       around the stumps"
> http://DixieNC.US
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>
> From: Tony Stillman <mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com>
>
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:40 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
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>
>
> Buddy:
> As I said at the beginning of this discussion thread, I am involved with a
> total NATS review.  We are talking about all of the NATS, nothing is too
> sacred to be up for discussion.
>
>
>
> One question I always had is why it the NATS an open event?  Most all 
> sports
> NATIONAL championships require you to qualify.  With so many people
> complaining that the AMA NATS is 6-weeks long, this was brought up as a 
> way
> to shorten the event.  It also would elevate the status of the NATS.  I
> don't see how this would reduce participation at the local level.  It may
> actually increase it!
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that this is just DISCUSSION!!!  Don't get all bent out of
> shape because we are talking about it.
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>
>
>
> Tony Stillman, President
>
> Radio South
>
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd
>
> Pensacola, FL 32505
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>
>
>
>
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> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
> BUDDYonRC at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:56 PM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>
>
>
> I have a question
>
> Why all of a sudden are you talking about special requirements needed for
>
> Nat's entry.
>
> My take on this, is if this is done we will reduce participation. I may be
> wrong but if I am not how is this going to help pattern and the NSRCA?
>
> I think it will be the first step toward a further reduction in membership
> and a step toward an all professional Nat's
>
>
>
> Second question
>
> Tony are you pushing this idea for real?
>
> Buddy
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