[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

[Fred Huber]

if the accumulation of points is based on the whole year between the end of 
one NATS and the beginning of the next... you have a full year to acumulate 
points even if the NATS got held on Jan 30.

Points accumulation is already being done by NSRCA for all pattern contests 
that get reported to the NSRCA (which is essentially all pattern contests) 
The current intent is to keep track of when someone must move up in class 
due to points accumulation according to AMA rules.

Making use of the data that is already being gathered in determining 
qualification would be a matter of adding another column or two to a 
spreadsheet.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jonlowe at aol.com>
To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1


> Qualifying for the NATS might work if it is at the end of the season,
> but not in the middle.  They would have to be in September at the
> earliest to make this work.   Some districts would be lucky to get in 3
> or 4 contests by the current date.  How many contests would be needed
> to qualify?  How may will get invited from each district?  Will some
> districts get more invitees than others?   Points would have to
> accumulated until just before the NATS if we keep the current time of
> the year, especially for districts in the frozen north, not allowing
> people to have adequate time to plan vacations around attendance at the
> NATS.  You also run into school vs. vacation issues for those people
> with kids if you do it late in the season.  If you have a regional
> qualifying event, then people who want to go to the NATS have to plan
> around another single event.
>
> Another issue is who at the national level is going to keep track of
> the points that are accumulated, and then send out the invites to
> people who qualify?  Since you have fewer people to spread costs over,
> who is going to absorb those costs?  NATS entry fees are already 3
> times higher than any other contest you go to, and I think people would
> balk at fees going even higher.
>
> Would this change be applied to all of the NATS events and not just
> pattern?  If "they" want to shorten the time period, why don't "they"
> have other dsiciplines compete at the same time as we do? Certainly
> controline could go on at the same time. Who are these "so many people"
> who are complaining?  The competitors?  The organizers?
> Non-participants?  If it is non-participants, they get 46 other weeks a
> year to fly at the AMA site; if that isn't thier beef, what is?
>
> It is great to talk about things like this, but until someone lays out
> the answers to all of these questions and presents a plan, it is all so
> much BS.  Someone has to define the problem, get agreement that it IS a
> problem, and from whose vantage point, and then lay out a plan that
> fixes the problem.  I haven't seen that.
>
> Attending the NATS is a great experience, and the only time in the year
> where anyone can compete against people from all over the country and
> see how they stack up.   You can be at the top of your district in a
> class, and be an also ran at the NATS.  Changing it so that only the
> best of the best can attend will change the very nature of the event.
> Why change what works?  What problem are we trying to fix?
>
> Jon
>
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> From: tony at radiosouthrc.com
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 7:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>
> Buddy:
> As I said at the beginning of this discussion thread, I am involved
> with a total NATS review. We are talking about all of the NATS,
> nothing is too sacred to be up for discussion.
>
>
>
> One question I always had is why it the NATS an open event? Most all
> sports NATIONAL championships require you to qualify. With so many
> people complaining that the AMA NATS is 6-weeks long, this was brought
> up as a way to shorten the event. It also would elevate the status of
> the NATS. I don’t see how this would reduce participation at the local
> level. It may actually increase it!
>
>
>
> Keep in mind that this is just DISCUSSION!!! Don’t get all bent out of
> shape because we are talking about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Tony Stillman, President
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>
>
> I have a question
>
>
> Why all of a sudden are you talking about special requirements needed
> for
>
>
> Nat's entry.
>
>
> My take on this, is if this is done we will reduce participation. I may
> be wrong but if I am not how is this going to help pattern and the
> NSRCA?
>
>
> I think it will be the first step toward a further reduction in
> membership and a step toward an all professional Nat's
>
>
>
>
>
> Second question
>
>
> Tony are you pushing this idea for real?
>
>
> Buddy
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