[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

Mon Apr 30 07:29:27 AKDT 2007

Yeah, I thought about that, but what happens if you point out in a 
given class in a season and have to move up, or go up a class for other 
reasons?  I don't know how to make that work well.  The sequences also 
could change.  The unintended consequences also need to be addressed.

jon

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Good points Jon. Perhaps part of the qualification could be a rollover 
from
the previous season?

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Qualifying for the NATS might work if it is at the end of the season,
but not in the middle.  They would have to be in September at the
earliest to make this work.   Some districts would be lucky to get in 3
or 4 contests by the current date.  How many contests would be needed
to qualify?  How may will get invited from each district?  Will some
districts get more invitees than others?   Points would have to
accumulated until just before the NATS if we keep the current time of
the year, especially for districts in the frozen north, not allowing
people to have adequate time to plan vacations around attendance at the
NATS.  You also run into school vs. vacation issues for those people
with kids if you do it late in the season.  If you have a regional
qualifying event, then people who want to go to the NATS have to plan
around another single event.

Another issue is who at the national level is going to keep track of
the points that are accumulated, and then send out the invites to
people who qualify?  Since you have fewer people to spread costs over,
who is going to absorb those costs?  NATS entry fees are already 3
times higher than any other contest you go to, and I think people would
balk at fees going even higher.

Would this change be applied to all of the NATS events and not just
pattern?  If "they" want to shorten the time period, why don't "they"
have other dsiciplines compete at the same time as we do? Certainly
controline could go on at the same time. Who are these "so many people"
who are complaining?  The competitors?  The organizers?
Non-participants?  If it is non-participants, they get 46 other weeks a
year to fly at the AMA site; if that isn't thier beef, what is?

It is great to talk about things like this, but until someone lays out
the answers to all of these questions and presents a plan, it is all so
much BS.  Someone has to define the problem, get agreement that it IS a
problem, and from whose vantage point, and then lay out a plan that
fixes the problem.  I haven't seen that.

Attending the NATS is a great experience, and the only time in the year
where anyone can compete against people from all over the country and
see how they stack up.   You can be at the top of your district in a
class, and be an also ran at the NATS.  Changing it so that only the
best of the best can attend will change the very nature of the event.
Why change what works?  What problem are we trying to fix?

Jon

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From: tony at radiosouthrc.com
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Sent: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 7:40 AM
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Buddy:
As I said at the beginning of this discussion thread, I am involved
with a total NATS review.  We are talking about all of the NATS,
nothing is too sacred to be up for discussion.

One question I always had is why it the NATS an open event?  Most all
sports NATIONAL championships require you to qualify.  With so many
people complaining that the AMA NATS is 6-weeks long, this was brought
up as a way to shorten the event.  It also would elevate the status of
the NATS.  I don’t see how this would reduce participation at the local
level.  It may actually increase it!

Keep in mind that this is just DISCUSSION!!!  Don’t get all bent out of
shape because we are talking about it.

Tony Stillman, President

Radio South

3702 N. Pace Blvd

Pensacola, FL 32505

1-800-962-7802

www.radiosouthrc.com

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:56 PM
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I have a question

Why all of a sudden are you talking about special requirements needed
for

Nat's entry.

My take on this, is if this is done we will reduce participation. I may
be wrong but if I am not how is this going to help pattern and the
NSRCA?

I think it will be the first step toward a further reduction in
membership and a step toward an all professional Nat's

Second question

Tony are you pushing this idea for real?  

Buddy 

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