[NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric

paul.horan paul.horan at sbcglobal.net
Sun Sep 17 18:04:46 AKDT 2006 

Scott,
    Fred stated what works for Sportsman - his Quest is an EXCELLENT plane 
for Sportsman.
    I also fly intermediate, both a Meridian and a Prophecy.  The Quest 
would work well for part or all the first season of Intermediate.
    The Quest is a small plane for intermediate but Not sportsman and 
getting your feet wet in intermediate.  Particularly electric.

    You are right about the extra power and a 2 meter plane.  In 
indermediate and advanced it is a MUST.  Good luck in Advanced next season.
Paul

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Anderson" <scott at rcfoamy.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric


>I believe the Quest is a small plane (Specifications:)
> Wingspan: 68.5"
> Wing Area: 1000 sq. in.
> Ready-to-fly weight: 7.5 - 8.5 lbs.
> Length: 69"
>
> We are not doing a even comparison to a 2 meter plane..
>
> I fly intermediate and will be moving to advanced next year and its still
> nice to have extra power...
>
>
> Scott Anderson
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "paul.horan" <paul.horan at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric
>
>
>> Scott,
>>    I have seen Fred's Quest fly - it is electric and it is more than
>> sufficient for sportsman and the beginning of intermediate.
>>    I believe he is correct in his statement.
>> Thanks,
>> Paul
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Scott Anderson" <scott at rcfoamy.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric
>>
>>
>>> Fred,
>>>
>>> 100 watts per pound is marginal for pattern..
>>>
>>> And I don"t fly Masters !
>>>
>>> Just my 2 cents..
>>>
>>> Scott Anderson
>>> Team Tanicpacks.com
>>> Team Castle Creations
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Fred Huber" <fhhuber at clearwire.com>
>>> To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 9:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric
>>>
>>>
>>>> The costs they listed are for a plane competitive at Masters or above.
>>>> Sportsman simply doesn't require the same performance from the model.
>>>> (each
>>>> successive level demands more from the plane and pilot)
>>>>
>>>> Sportsman (flying the schedule used the past couple of years) level
>>>> needs
>>>> appx 100 watts/ lb and you can get a decent e-power plane set up for
>>>> close
>>>> to half the cost. (probably less, as prices are comming down)
>>>>
>>>> It depends on the performance level you want or need.  I believe the
>>>> setup
>>>> Nat recommends approaches 200 or 250 watts/lb in an 11 lb plane...
>>>> Desireable for the HUGE verticals with rolls on up lines at Masters and
>>>> FAI
>>>> level.
>>>>
>>>> *************
>>>>
>>>> BEST is to charge the LiPos at no faster than 1C rate... so it takes 1
>>>> hr
>>>> for a fully depleted pack.
>>>>
>>>> don't forget to get a cell ballancer, and a Wattmeter.  Adds appx $75 
>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>> bill. ($25 for Astro Blinkey... and $50 for the wattmeter).. but the
>>>> ballancer increases the life of the LiPos, (and makes charging safer)
>>>> and
>>>> the wattmeter allows you to test the power draw with assorted props, to
>>>> ensure you aren't overloading something.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kelly Regan" <kelly.regan2 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 7:44 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wow,  That is a bit out of my price range!
>>>>> My Brio on gas idea is looking better!  ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Nat Penton wrote:
>>>>>> Kelly
>>>>>> My experience (from memory):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plett EVO and ESC                 About   $800
>>>>>> TP 5300 5S 4P                       Check Website
>>>>>> 2 - Astro 109 chargers                           280
>>>>>> 12v Iota power supply                              90
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use 75% capacity it will take 35 to 45 minutes to charge the
>>>>>> batteries. 2C charging will not hurt the batteries but you cannot get
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than 8amps out of the Astros. I still like the Astros and, when in 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> shop,
>>>>>> charge the batteries in parallel. Balancing is no problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Iota is a great piece of equipmment and will easily handle four
>>>>>> Astro
>>>>>> 109s.                        Nat
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Kelly Regan" <kelly.regan2 at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: <NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 5:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] cost of electric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can someone post the cost of a 2 meter electric setup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Motor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speed Control
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Battery size and cost
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also how long does it take to charge one battery pack at a
>>>>>>> reasonable rate, something that won't kill the battery life.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for the help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Kelly Regan
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