[NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question - vertical segments

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Keith, based on what Glen supplied below, it would appear that your assessment is correct. The statement regarding vertical length is incomplete and ambiguous in this case.
 
Please note that historically, Ms have always had their verticals the same length although it may not be specified as such. It was understood. The absolute length of the verticals didn't matter ( as long as it was below the top of the box), but compared to each other, theyy had to be equal.
 
The Judging Committee will need to make certain that that piece is properly clarified and communicated 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tkeithb at comcast.net
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Sent: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question - vertical segments


Now that we're breaking this down, I'd like some clarification on the
section of the rule below that states:

"The length of the vertical segments is not a judging criteria."

In the strictest translation of this sentence I would say that this means
that the two stall turns do not need to be the same height, however, this
seems inconsistent will all other centered maneuvers where two halves of an
object do have to match in size.

A looser translation could be that the intention of this verbiage is to
point out that a shorter 'M' should score as well as a taller 'M', but
assumes that both sides should be the same height (which isn't stated
anywhere).

Unless otherwise clarified, I'd have to deduce that indeed the two stall
turns don't have to be the same height.

Keith Black

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Watson" <gwatson11 at houston.rr.com>
To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Masters 2007 Figure "M" question


Below is the Figure M description from page 79-80 of the current AMA rule
book...Note the statement regarding rolls and stall turn direction are
pilot's option...I then found this statement "Edit page 79-80 Figure M with
¼ or ½ rolls" to include ¾ roll options" on the NSRCA page under:
http://nsrca.org/competition/judging/Patterns2007

Figure M with 1/4 or 1/2 Rolls: Model pulls up into one-quarter (1/4) loop
to a vertical track, hesitates then performs prescribed roll, hesitates then
executes a stall turn through 180 degrees, hesitates, performs
prescribed roll, hesitates then executes one-half (1/2) outside loop to
vertical track, hesitates, performs prescribed roll, hesitates, executes a
stall turn through 180 degrees, hesitates, performs prescribed roll,
hesitates then recovers with another one-quarter (1/4) loop to level flight.
Direction of rolls and stall turns are pilot's option. The length of the
vertical segments is not a judging criteria.

Downgrades:
1. Model not vertical at start and finish of rolls
and stall turns.
2. Stall turns not exactly 180 degrees.
3. Model does not execute prescribed rolls.
4. Rolls not centered in vertical lines.
5. Bottom of outside half loop not at same altitude
as entry and exit.

Regards,

Glen
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