[NSRCA-discussion] Avoidance

Ed Alt ed_alt at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 4 14:13:59 AKDT 2006


Hard to say.  Probably.  I called it for myself a couple of times and have 
seen it called dozens of times of the years.

Ed


>From: Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Avoidance
>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 13:45:01 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I am aware of the IMAC rule about calling avoidance.
>I'm curious if it has eliminated mid-airs at IMAC
>contests.
>
>--- Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, Scale Aerobatics has this as a rule.  You
> > or your caller can
> > declare it.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Amar Shan" <shan at telus.net>
> > >Reply-To: shan at telus.net,        NSRCA Mailing List
> >
> > ><nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
> > <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Avoidance
> > >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 11:24:14 -0700
> > >
> > >Incredible that some competitors get so caught up
> > in the competition that
> > >they would jeopardize they aircraft for the sake of
> > a few points (on a
> > >turnaround manoeuvre, for heaven's sake!).  Dare I
> > say, "stupid"?
> > >
> > >I saw the most avoidable accident ever at a contest
> > a few years back.
> > >Int/Adv pilots - one doing 3 inside loops, the
> > other doing 2 outside loops,
> > >following the same track, in opposite directions.
> > They missed each other
> > >... twice ... on the third try they didn't miss.
> > >
> > >We all left shaking our heads.
> > >
> > >I've had midairs.  In all cases, it was because I
> > didn't see the other
> > >aircraft.  If I'd seen it, not all the points in
> > the world would have
> > >prevented me from saving my plane first!
> > >
> > >I don't think a new rule is required here.  As
> > pointed out, it would be
> > >subject to abuse.  If you're stupid enough to
> > destroy your plane rather
> > >than
> > >alter your trajectory and take a downgrade, I think
> > a version of the Darwin
> > >Awards should be awarded!
> > >
> > >Amar
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > >[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On
> > Behalf Of Ed Deaver
> > >   Sent: October 4, 2006 11:05 AM
> > >   To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > >   Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Avoidance
> > >
> > >
> > >   Now the ball is rolling on judging, I have
> > another subject worth
> > >discussion.  Not sure it has been actually.
> > >   At N Dallas 2 weeks ago, a midair occurred.
> > Here is the scenario.
> > >   Both pilots were flying on the same track, but
> > spread apart.  On an
> > >endbox
> > >manuever, both pulled vertical and both held their
> > nerve(to their credit)
> > >It appeared one plane was inside the other.
> > Suddenly plane #1 pulled to
> > >complete his 1/2 square (which appeared inside
> > plane #2) when #2 cut it in
> > >1/2 and flew through it.
> > >   My question is:
> > >   Can pattern effectively begin or have an
> > "avoidance" rule.  These 2
> > >planes
> > >were so close had one just pulled the power back a
> > little, let the other
> > >one
> > >go on, $6K would still be flying.  I realize some
> > overzelous competitors
> > >would use this indescretionately, but still we
> > could write in some wording
> > >indicating judges had to agree it was in the best
> > interest of both pilots.
> > >As well no change to distance out could occur (not
> > making it a positioning
> > >advantage)
> > >   Any thoughts on this one.
> > >   Ed
> >
> >
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>Bob Kane
>getterflash at yahoo.com
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