[NSRCA-discussion] One day contests
Ed Alt
ed_alt at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 2 12:24:42 AKDT 2006
I think that it's easy to accomodate pilots who have a concern over fuel
supply being adequate for two sequences in a flight. The CD simply makes or
flight line boss simply makes an exception for their case and allows two
complete flights. In this case, the the judges should score the first
landing, just in case the 2nd flight doesn't happen, but if the 2nd flight
does happen, then the first flight landing would get a 10, no matter what.
Takeoff #2 gets an automatic 10 (since #1 was scored for real) and landing
#2 gets scored as normal. For everyone else who does two sequences in one
flight, you automatically score landing #1 and takeoff #2 a 10 (assumes they
complete sequence #1 and enter the box for sequence #2).
Ed
>From: mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com>
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>To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] One day contests
>Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 12:53:35 -0700 (PDT)
>
> I was wondering the same thing. If I were in charge I would allow a
>refuel and pickup where you left off.
>
>twtaylor <twtaylor at ftc-i.net> wrote: If they have a flame out due to
>low fuel on the second sequence do you allow them to land and refuel and
>fly again?
>
>
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>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] One day contests
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>
>
> Then I am flying Sportsman at Creswell next year!!!!
>
> Don Atwood
>
> In a message dated 10/2/2006 11:07:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>trexlesh at msn.com writes:
> Everyone is correct about not trying it for intermediate... It
>would take too long. The whole idea behind it is to get more flying time
>for Sportsman pilots. When I started flying pattern, I passed on flying
>Sportsman and started in Intermediate, simply because I wasn't about to
>drive 350-500 miles to fly for 20 minutes.... Also, it's good exposure
>for the Sportsman pilot to get as much flying time as possible in front of
>judges... They get a lot of feedback and support from the judges and
>fellow flyers that they may well not get at there home field...
> You learn more flying in a contest than you ever do just practicing
>without observers. So far, it's worked very well here in D8. We normally
>only get 3 rounds per day any how.... To tell you the truth, I don't
>believe we've had any issue on 2 day vs 1 day contests. We always run a 2
>day contest and the Sportsman get 12 rounds of flying... They like it!
>
> Rex Lesher
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adrien L Terrenoire
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] One day contests
>
>
>Lance: It IS workable, we have been doing it for the better part of 20
>years. Not for ALL classes, just Sportsman.
>We make sure this class gets 4 rounds each day, weather permitting, of
>course. We announce a winner Saturday night at the dinner, and present
>the award. In 2005, for our 50th, we even gave away a gold watch to each
>day's winners. In this case, we stipulated that the same person could not
>win both days. The guy who won Saturday opted not to fly Sunday, but was
>there anyway.
>
>You seem to missing the point that we are trying to encourage
>participation in the lower class, classes. We are doing this by trying to
>address the problem of committment for the newcomer. It does work, and is
>workable, if the CD looks at "how can we make it work" and NOT at "how is
>this a problem".
>
>Terry T.
>
>On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 21:24:59 -0500 "Lance Van Nostrand"
><patterndude at comcast.net> writes:
> > As I read with interest this thread I don't see how 2 one day
> > contests is
> > workable. sunday flying is not long enough to have the same number
> > of
> > sportsman/intermediate rounds and the obvious issue is that its
> > highly
> > likely that people staying for two days are more likely to win on
> > both days.
> > Maybe a modification is just to announce a "day 1 placing" and let
> > the
> > contest continue. Anyone only able to stay for one day would win
> > the day 1
> > award and feel their accomplishment for the time they were able to
> > compete.
> > At the end of day 1, everyone has had the same number of rounds and
> >
> > opportunity to be winners. The continuing dynamics can shake things
> > up in
> > day 2, but at the end of day 1, the winners can be announced. Award
> >
> > something simple, like a certificate or some diet coke and mentos at
> > the end
> > of day 1 flying. People with time constraints are not limited to
> > sportsman,
> > and this could be done at all classes.
> >
> > --lance
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kelly Regan" <kelly.regan2 at verizon.net>
> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] One day contests
> >
> >
> > > It was nice to read all the opinions about the one day contest and
> > I
> > > have to say that 2 one day contests for the lower classes seems
> > > like a win win situation.
> > >
> > > Speaking for myself I would not need or expect an award for a one
> > day
> > > contest. Maybe you could save the award for the guys that stayed
> > both
> > > days and do a combined 2 day total. Or just print out paper
> > awards for
> > > the one day participants and mail them later?
> > >
> > > Day one:
> > > 1st
> > > 2nd
> > > 3rd
> > >
> > > Day 2:
> > > 1st
> > > 2nd
> > > 3rd
> > >
> > > Combined total:
> > > 1st
> > > 2nd
> > > 3rd
> > >
> > > Again this is just an idea from a new guy.
> > >
> > > Adrien L Terrenoire wrote:
> > >> In an earlier thread, I resopnded to a comment about our club
> > making
> > >> the Sportsman class two one day contest for as long as I can
> > remember,
> > >> and for the same length of time, I can't remember anyone flying
> > just
> > >> one of the days. I am sure it has happened, but the instances
> > have
> > >> been rare. On our end, it means that we have to buy, or make up
> > and
> > >> extra set of awards.
> > >>
> > >> Terry T.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:45:31 -0400 Mike Wizynajtys
> > >> <mikewiz at tcwireless.us <mailto:mikewiz at tcwireless.us>> writes:
> > >>
> > >> That seems reasonable. What if the only day you can attend is
> > the
> > >> second day? Do contests allow that? I could have done that
> > once
> > >> this past summer, when a tight work deadline messed up my
> > plans.
> > >>
> > >> Wiz
> > >>
> > >> At 08:03 AM 9/29/2006, you wrote:
> > >>> The obvious answer is to only attend one day of a two day
> > event.
> > >>> At the end of the first day, you pretty much know how your
> > going
> > >>> to stack up against the competition. Which is the main
> > reason I
> > >>> fly. For family reasons, I only attend on saturday.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> -------------- Original message --------------
> > >>> From: Chris Moon <cjm767driver at hotmail.com>
> > >>> One day contests really require a large number of
> > potential
> > >>> flyers within a reasonably short driving distance. I
> > think
> > >>> that they were more popular years ago when there were
> > more
> > >>> people in pattern. In the 80's on the East coast there
> > were
> > >>> lots of flyers and several one day contests. Today, we
> > have
> > >>> people driving 400 -500 miles to a 2 day contest and
> > that
> > >>> would not be good for a one day event. However if you
> > had
> > >>> enough local people to make up for the loss of the long
> > >>> distance drivers maybe it would work. I just don't know
> > of
> > >>> too many areas that have enough people local to make up
> > an
> > >>> event and not have to rely on long distance drivers to
> > >>> guarantee a good contest with lots of competition.
> > >>> I would like some one day contests too, but not if I am
> > only
> > >>> flying a! gainst 1 or 2 other guys.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Chris
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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