[NSRCA-discussion] Wind correction

White, Chris chris at ssd.fsi.com
Mon Oct 2 04:42:42 AKDT 2006


Hi Ed, 

 

The rules say track,  All my practice is based on track.  So, if I see
NO wind correction when there should be, that is a violation of track
and I will downgrade it.  Piloting is wind-correction....windy pattern
days are not as pretty as calm pattern days. Interesting that Art Wagner
and I had this conversation at Dallas.  (Art does some of very nice
wind-compensated flying.)  I personally see no other choice but to
believe that "Impression judging" is what a person is doing if not
judging by track.  If the rules were changed to say "best impression" I
can only imagine the chaos that would exist.  Per the current rules the
best flying has no style, but is flown like a computer...no deviation in
rates from start to finish...exact radiuses & wind corrections
etc...etc.  

 

I'm thankful to anyone who is sitting in that chair and trying to do
their dead-level best .... I know that it is tough to sit in that chair,
weed out impression and bias and score as fairly and accurately as
possible, but that is the job and to some degree we are all accountable
for it and to it.  I am far from a great judge and it takes much
experience, practice and dedication to do that job well.  I enjoy
reading the efforts put out by Don Ramsey and others concerning the
subject because of its importance to our game.  Thanks for starting this
thread and to all that have contributed.

 

My 2 cents...

Chris White

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ed Deaver
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Wind correction

 

Thanx Ken, but which would you score higher??  I know what we are
supposed to do, but that is the jist of my post.  

 

Ed

Ken Thompson <mrandmrst at comcast.net> wrote:

	Hard to ignore "ugly", but you need to judge the "track"

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		Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Wind correction

		 

		Hey everyone.  While the season is winding down, Don
Ramsey and I had an interesting discussion this past weekend.  Am
wondering what the general consensus is.

		 

		First, let me state, judges are human and I understand
that.  Also, many judges don't know the exact wording of many rules, I
understant that also.

		 

		Soooo

		 

		Will a pilot score higher if they follow the letter of
the law and wind correct perfectly, but fly an ugly manuever, or wind
correct a little and let the plane look "prettier" in a manuever?????

		 

		Lets use the first maneuver in the Master's sequence
after entering the box.  Stall turn 1 1/4 rolls up, 3/4 rolls down exit
inverted.  On a strong wind day, not pulling to vertical to maintain the
line doesn't look to bad (we expect that) the 1 1/4 rolls in centered,
looking good, appropriate rudder is given to maintain a straight
vertical line (again expected and usually doesn't require much as we are
at full throttle), the stall goes off without a hitch, but do to lack of
airspeed we cant the fuse and hold rudder into the wind letting the fuse
lean at a 45degree angle to maintain a straight line (this is the part
I'm curious about) until the 3/4 roll and using a little down elevator
to hold the line after the roll (again expected but not ugly)

		Everything about this manuever is done and doesn't
detract from the overall appearance of the manuever except the down line
after the stall, which is simply "UGLY"

		 

		Just curious what everyone says.  Again, I know what the
rules say, and am not interested in a rule book interpretation, but what
do you think about scoring better vs worse???

		 

		Thanx

		 

		ed

		
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