[NSRCA-discussion] '08 F3A Rule Proposals

[Fred Huber]

Actually... it would just be fair to go by take-off weight.  the E-powered 
models ARE weighed "with full fuel load" since they are weighed with thier 
batteries.

Thus.. the E-power models used in F3A (and other levels of Pattern) have a 
weight allowance penalty comparable to the fuel capacity of the average glow 
powered model used in F3A.

Right now.. the E-power flyer has the choice of putting weight into the 
airframe, or into the batteries for the capacity to have the durration 
needed to fly the sequence.  Let the fuel-powered competitors have the same 
choice (and the same risk of running out of "juice" before the sequence is 
over if they choose structure over fuel capacity)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
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> Do I detect the sound of off tasting grapes..  ;+^  ( tic )
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>    Del
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> From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
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>> Of course, just to be fair; the IC airplanes are now weighed with fuel?
>> Yeah, right.....
>>
>> RS
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>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Dean Pappas
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>> So they listened to my 50 gram scale accuracy argument!
>>
>>
>> Dean Pappas
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>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Earl Haury
>> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:52 AM
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>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] '08 F3A Rule Proposals
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>> Just reviewed the final draft of F3A rules proposals for '08 thru '11 (no
>> sequences yet) and thought I'd share my quick take. They're well done 
>> with
>> some changes (or not) and consideration of a  number of technical issues.
>> Understand that these are unapproved proposals at this point and will not
>> affect the '07 season.
>>
>> Most significant items are that there will be no weight limit change,
>> scores
>> will be normalized to the average (with some provisions for exclusion of
>> zero scores / excessively low scores from the average), take-off / 
>> landing
>> will not be judged / scored (no more procedure turn after take-off),
>> sequences will be shorter with an eight minute time limit, wording to
>> exempt
>> rolling circles from the distance rules - 350 meters allowable.
>>
>> Tech issues include changes to address measuring equipment variability -
>> sound level (nose into the wind) will be 94.99 dBA max, max weight will 
>> be
>> 5000 grams with a 50 gram allowance (5050 gram fail point), power battery
>> max volts will be 42.99v in the ready box.
>>
>> There are several items regarding WC procedures including flight groups
>> for
>> prelims, team championships determined by finishing order (rather than
>> scores), in the 5-10-5 judge arrangement the end judges will now judge 
>> all
>> turnarounds.
>>
>> Overall a very good effort with input from a broad spectrum of the world
>> pattern community.
>>
>> Earl
>>
>>
>>
>>
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