[NSRCA-discussion] Brio-Quiet Storm

Tue May 23 20:58:14 AKDT 2006

Larry,
 Great tips! We glow guys need all the help we can get. We want to spend
money on fuel, NOT electric power system experiments that don't work. <VBG>
I have a Formosa 2 that I'm building for a review for Fly RC. It's good to
hear that it will be worth the effort. I hear ya- it isn't the best looking
plane out there, but as long as it flies OK I should be in good shape. I was
going to either leave the gear off or try the GWS retracts if the weight
budget would allow it. I planned on just leaving them up when flying off of
grass.

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Larry
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:22 PM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio-Quiet Storm
>
>
> The FormosaII (the newer bigger version) is actually a very nice
> flyer for a
> $45 foam aircraft! It tracks very well, rolls are axial, knife
> edge is good
> and it just flys great.
>
> The one major flaw is the landing gear - its like wet noodles. It
> will not
> last 2 flights on even a smooth runway and will fold on taxi in grass. I
> have been very close to getting one ever since I helped another
> flyer at our
> field maiden his.
>
> It does not have the sex appeal of the balsa planes, but with a
> little low
> temp iron on covering to doll it up or some paint work they look ok. The
> value for the buck is excellent. I think it would make a great
> small pattern
> practice plane. If your on grass - leave off the gear and belly land it.
> Otherwise - use heavier wire for the gear and reinforce the
> mounting plate
> in the wings.
>
> For power I would use the same setup as for the BME Yak from
> E-Flightline -
> Cobri gear box at 5.7/1, Himax 2025-5300, APC 12x6 E and 3S 2100
> packs. If
> you don't like geared setups - the Hacker A30-28S with an 11x5.5 E works
> well on 3S.
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark McLeod" <markmcleod at comcast.net>
> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio-Quiet Storm
>
>
> > Any idea how these compare to the Formosa foamy?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Larry
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:12 PM
> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio-Quiet Storm
> >
> > I'll toss in my experience with the small electrics I have had
> and still
> > own
> >
> > or have flown at least a few times.
> >
> > The very best by far is the ExtreemFlight Extra 300. Its a tad
> bigger and
> > a
> > couple ounces heavier and about $40 more expensive than the Brio, but it
> > flys way way better. You can throw it around like a foamy and
> yet it still
> > tracks like a much bigger plane. Knife edge is far better and there is
> > zero
> > tendency to snap out of hi G moves like the Brio. Landing is
> ridiculously
> > easy. The Brio likes a little speed and care not to drop a
> wing. The Extra
> > is almost a hands off on landing. The ARF quality is also far
> superior to
> > any of the others on my list too. Every surface and the fuse were all
> > warped
> >
> > on my Brio. The Extra is in a class by itself.
> >
> > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464062
> >
> > Next best on my list is the BME Mini Yak. About the same cost, size and
> > weight as the Brio but it flys much better. It is the best knife edge
> > plane
> > I have ever owned - period. Tracks at least as well as the Brio
> and it too
> > likes a little speed on landing, like the Brio, but doesn't snap out
> > nearly
> > as easily and has a much wider speed range on the low end.
> >
> > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487022
> >
> > I'd put the Brio next and about equal to the Katana mini. However, both
> > have
> >
> > habits I really don't like. The Katana has a weak rudder and the Brio
> > snaps
> > out too easy and flys heavy. I wont be getting another of either one.
> >
> > http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483149
> >
> > A big step down are all the other mini's - Funtana, E-Flight mini Edge
> > 540,
> > and Hyperion mini's. All have way too hi a wing loading for the
> size and
> > fly
> >
> > heavy IMHO.
> >
> > I have a hard time categorizing the Fliton birds. They seem to
> have a wide
> > variance in how well they fly and kit quality. I have not owned any
> > myself -
> >
> > just seen and flown others planes, so it could be they way they
> were set
> > up.
> >
> > Flitons seem to get love it or hate it reviews with little in
> the middle.
> >
> > All of these planes fly better lighter - no surprise there - but the
> > Extreem
> >
> > flight extra handles extra weight far better than any of the
> others. Its
> > the
> >
> > biggest and most expensive one on the list - not by much - but
> well worth
> > it. The BME Yak is my second favorite plane to fly - especially if its
> > windy.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Strickland" <richard.s at allied-callaway.com>
> > To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 7:40 AM
> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Brio-Quiet Storm
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone made a comparison-which acts more like a pattern airplane?
> >> Any
> >> better small electrics than those two?
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
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