[NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - Don't ask, don't tell.
John Pavlick
jpavlick at idseng.com
Tue May 16 20:59:23 AKDT 2006
Larry,
That's because you haven't stood up in front of your "friends" and let them
judge your flying yet. <VBG> Humbling experience. Yup - great bunch of guys
and gals even when we disagree. It's not uncommon for someone who you're
competing with (notice I didn't say "against") to offer you their airplane
so you don't miss a round because of a problem with yours.
John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - Don't ask, don't tell.
Oh boy, I am really being tested here!
There are obviously many things I "don't know yet" - beyond the details of
how to fly the routines - about this group and its history and there seem to
be several major issues of debate.
In fact, I'm beginning to wonder if there are ANY safe questions!
I am really really tempted to ask a few, but I'll be good!<VBG>
One thing I'm beginning to feel sure of - your all a good bunch!
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Larry
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From: White, Chris
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - Don't ask, don't tell.
Hmmm
”The Downwind Turn”, it is interesting to note that Air Progress
magazine did the same thing in about 1973-74. It was a columnist battle of
the downwind turn controversy hosted in articles by Mike Dillon and Barry
Schiff. Hey, another good topic is “Region of reversed command” (just try
that one on the FAA)
.it all has the same effect as snaps
controversy!!!!
Chris
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:24 PM
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On May 16, 2006, at 12:06 PM, george w. kennie wrote:
Or better yet, Larry, the notorious down-wind turn which I have been
wondering about for the last 8 years. With sombody like me on the list,
noone has even dared to mention that debacle (and I don't blame
them.....BG.).
I wrote the aerobatics column for Model Aviation for 20 years and,
whenever I ran dry on things to say, would mention the downwind turn. Then,
from the letters I got from readers, I had column material for several
months. The best analysis of the problem was by a writer, named Len
Salter, in South Africa, who wrote an article entitled "All You Need Is An
Aircraft Carrier". He described a fictional flight of an R/C airplane from
the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, which was steaming downwind at the
speed of the wind. He described the flight of his airplane, flying in the
"calm" conditions the wind and aircraft carrier provided. No sign of the
dreaded "downwind turn problem". He went on to ask how the airplane would
know the difference if the pilot was instantaneously teleported to an
adjacent island, because the airplane would then exhibit the "downwind turn
problem". His conclusion was that the problem is the pilot's perception of
what the airplane is doing, not the fault of the wind. BTW, I agree with
him.
Ron Van Putte
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From: Keith Black
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - Don't ask, don't
tell.
That would probably be best.
Now just PLEASE, don't ask about snaps!!!!
VBG.
Keith Black
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From: Larry
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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - landing and
approach
Thanks Keith and Matt. I think I have it now .
I was going to ask how could "landing" possibly be a controversial
issue, but I think it would be best if I just go to the contest, keep my
eyes open and my mouth shut! LOL
Thanks to all!
Larry
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From: Keith Black
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Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - landing and
approach
OK Larry, I'm starting to think you're a "mole" just posing as a
newbie to try and stir up trouble! VBG.
You've just touched on another highly charged topic. (DON'T PEE ON
THAT THIRD.... ZZZAP!)
That's pretty good for a "newbie" (I'm starting to wonder ;-) ),
two fire storms in just two questions.
LOL.
The short answer, make two 180 degree turns and land on the runway
without rolling off the side or pieces flying off your airplane and you'll
get a ten. Notice, that I didn't say you couldn't crash on the runway, to
do so is entirely legal and you'll still get a ten as long as all parts stay
in tack.
This is up for a vote by the Contest Board this summer and
"should" be changed back to scoring from 1 to 10, but you never know.
Keith Black
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Newbie question - landing and
approach
I have another few newbie Sportsman questions if I may -
hopefully not as controversial as the "electric weight" issue :)
After the Double Immelman without rolls (U) I will be flying
upwind and then exit the box if I am understanding this correctly.
How should I get from there to landing?
I am assuming a simple flat 180 deg turn (away from the flight
line) from the upwind leg to down wind followed by a normal landing
approach?
What parts of that entire procedure are judged?
On the actual landing - the rules talk about two lines 100
meters apart. Do I need to touch the ground inside those two lines and/or
roll to a stop within those two lines?
Thanks!
Larry
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