[NSRCA-discussion] An education in balsa usage for pattern

Wed Mar 29 05:31:03 AKST 2006

Gentlemen...thanks very much on your feedback.  Yes, probably a lot of
misconception came from ads, but also from an almost common comment
picked up here and there saying how hard it is to make a 2meter airplane
come in under 11lbs going the balsa route. I'm a pilot & A&P and
somewhat familiar with light airplane construction techniques and
appreciate design integrity as being the big factor in light yet strong.
In any case I have now heard what I wanted to hear and am looking
forward to seeing Tom's article, and some of the other stuff that Keith
Shaw and the electric guys know.  Brian, I remembered your rebuilding an
EMC2 fuse from balsa and it was pretty light prior to the Texas
midair...(guess that made it even lighter albeit non-airworthy;)ouch.)
I have purchased plans over the years of many pattern planes from the
old Eyeball & Mach 1 to late the Typhoon 2000, &  G202 by Gator RC and
an L'Essence II which used very light construction techniques in coping
with the weight of the gas engine it was designed around. I've looked at
the Patriot, and was encouraged the other day to see Mike Hester
offering plans for the Black Magic. 

Suppliers...when I worked in the hobby business years ago we bought
mostly  Sig & Midwest Micro-cut. At that time pattern airplanes were
ballistic missiles with retracts (pre-turnaround) and there wasn't as
much regard for weight consciousness compared to nowadays.  Does anyone
have any experience with Lonestar Models (Riley Wooten).

I'm encouraged to think that balsa is still very much alive since the
days of the DH Mosquito:)  I've seen some guys work with fiberglass etc
that do a great job (Here, I'm thinking of KS hero Todd Schmidt, who
does everything in pattern extremely well:))  Also, some other great
guys from KS have an excellent wing construction article (Terry Brox and
Joe Dunnaway on the Mack RC website.)

I appreciate the wealth of experience out there, and thanks again for
your comments....
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of J.Oddino
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] An education in balsa usage for pattern

Tom, send me your email address.  I tried sending you something through
the
list but I guess it was too large a file.
Jim O
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] An education in balsa usage for pattern

>
> Good idea  guys- I'll see if I can get an inside scoop of what a
pattern
plane should have hanging of it......probably more like Nat's planes?
>
> BTW-one of the local guys has tried a CPLR/F1 camera mount on his
planes........he swears by it!!!!! Reckons it has increased the rudder
authority, might also have been the pills he is on!
>
> I'll give you an inside scoop on the McClaren guys-even the bosses of
Mercedes make fun of the mute, monotone Raikonnen-but they seem to think
the
guy can drive. I did offer to drive for them for FREE-thinking obviously
of
the many millions they would save on their budget-hmmmmm still waiting
for
THAT phone call....hahahahaha
>
> Wonder how much balsa they use in an F1 car??? <VBG>
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of
> adriancwong at earthlink.net
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 10:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] An education in balsa usage for
pattern
>
>
> Sorry, still a die-hard Michael Shumacher fan.
>
> Adrian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "Koenig, Tom" <Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>
> >Sent: Mar 28, 2006 5:56 PM
> >To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] An education in balsa usage for
pattern
> >
> >
> > Gents,
> >
> >
> >
> >I'll try and help out with an article I wrote many years ago (I am
also
sending it to Bruce Underwood-SPA)
> >
> >
> >I'll zap it to the K-factor ( and SPA) next week when I get
back....sorry
to gloat...but I am going to the Formula 1 race in Melbourne (leaving
today), I'll give ya'll a wave from the Mclaren-Mercedes garage!!!
> >
> >
> >Tom ( very much a Fan of Balsa)
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of White,
Chris
> >Sent: Wednesday, 29 March 2006 9:37 AM
> >To: NSRCA Mailing List
> >Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] An education in balsa usage for pattern
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Can anyone tell me where  a person can get a "Crash" course in
learning
about balsa weights and strength and its proper use in balsa pattern
models.
> >
> >I notice a few years ago that in the 99 world champs most of the
Japanese
pilots models were balsa and light weight too.  It seems that everything
I
read of late seems to indicate that light weight and strength only come
with
composite construction.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks....Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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