[NSRCA-discussion] Avalanche - Positive or Negative Snap?

[Ken Thompson]

You know Mike, I do remember that, as a matter of fact, I believe you were 
the one that told me last year the positive snap helps you keep your loop 
clean.  That's why I started to try and practice that, hence the reason I 
know I have a problem with it. <G>

Remember when I told you I have a horrible short term memory, here's the 
proof!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Darr" <mdarr00 at comcast.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Avalanche - Positive or Negative Snap?


> Ken,
>
> You judged me twice, and I always do a positive snap during my avalance.
> Oops.
>
> Mike Darr
>
>
>
>
>
>>I again stand corrected.  My thought was that the snap should be to the
>> outside of the loop to control the amount of drop that the model will
>> encounter, being in the stalled position.  I don't recall judging anyone
>> that did a positive snap, but I certainly see Arch's point.
>>
>> This is why Archie flies the way he does, and I fly the way I do <BG>
>>
>> Ken
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at comcast.net>
>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Avalanche - Positive or Negative Snap?
>>
>>
>>> It can be done either way.  Personally I think it presents better by
>>> doing
>>> it positive...others disagree, but I think you can maintain the shape of
>>> the
>>> loop better with a positive snap.
>>>
>>> Arch Stafford
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Michael
>>> Laggis
>>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:07 PM
>>> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Avalanche - Positive or Negative Snap?
>>>
>>> That's the problem Ken,
>>>
>>> "Model pulls or pushes up into a loop, at the top it executes a complete
>>> snap roll, positive or negative, recovers to complete the loop and
>>> finishes
>>> in level upright or inverted flight."
>>>
>>> That is the total description in the AMA rule book.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ken
>>> Thompson
>>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:55 AM
>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Avalanche - Positive or Negative Snap?
>>>
>>> I believe the AMA rulebook gives you both for clarity, it you pull into
>>> the
>>> loop you need to do a negative snap.  You have to pull in the Advanced
>>> sequence because the plane is entering the maneuver upright.
>>>
>>> Of course, I just started to fly Intermediate, so I may be wrong <G>
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Laggis" <fishgod at pobox.mtaonline.net>
>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:43 PM
>>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Avalanche - Positive or Negative Snap?
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am wondering if the pilot has the choice on the type of snap in an
>>>> avalanche?  In Advanced maneuver 14 is an Avalanche.  The AMA rule book
>>>> states as follows.
>>>>
>>>> "Model pulls or pushes up into a loop, at the top it executes a 
>>>> complete
>>>> snap roll, positive or negative, recovers to complete the loop and
>>>> finishes
>>>> in level upright or inverted flight."
>>>>
>>>> I was told by someone at the field that if you pull into a loop it has
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> a positive snap and if you push into the loop it is a negative snap.
>>>>
>>>> My preference is pull into the loop then do a negative snap.  Just
>>>> looking
>>>> for some clarity.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Laggis
>>>>
>>>>
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