[NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

Wed Jan 25 12:55:19 AKST 2006

I get 26+mpg with my Ford Ranger supercab pulling my trailer.   
Get a light weight trailer... it is WAY cheaper then having to buy a vehicle to fit the airplane.  Even if you have to pay $1500-$3000 for a trailer your still way ahead of the ballgame.

Wayne Galligan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jay Marshall 
  To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

  Remember what happened when a certain CEO took Chrysler Chapt.11? We all bailed him out.

  As for cars, I bought a Honda Element, a mini-SUV. It measures 2m in the rear with the seats up (they raise off the floor and fold against the sides) but I haven't tried to get my Focus inside as yet. The floors are rubberized so fuel, etc., won't harm them. It also gets 26mpg on the way to contests.

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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ed Miller
  Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:07 PM
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  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

  I have to agree. IMO the domestic car companies produce as good if not better vehicles than their overseas counterparts.  It has become "trendy" to own certain plaques over others.  A Chevrolet Z06 Corvette with no other changes other than a Ferrari badge would cost well into the 6 figures instead of 70K.  There used to be a saying "as GM goes so does the USA".  Many think that no longer applies.  I say watch what happens if GM and/or Ford goes chapter 11.  I've always felt that if I bought a US product I was in some way helping my neighbor. 

  Ed M.  

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    From: Dean Pappas 

    To: NSRCA Mailing List 

    Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:51 AM

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

    You know, it's a terrible shame that after taking a deserved heck of a beating for truly poor reliability/design back in the seventies,

    Detroit has honest-to-for-really turned their act around ... and they don't get credit for it!

    My Grand Caravan with the Stow n'Go seats is a marvellously practical vehicle.

    Dean Pappas 
    Sr. Design Engineer 
    Kodeos Communications 
    111 Corporate Blvd. 
    South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
    (908) 222-7817 phone 
    (908) 222-2392 fax 
    d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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      From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Rick Wallace
      Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:11 AM
      To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota

      Not sure it works to say that 'all profits go to Japan' - at one  point, GM owned 1% of Toyota. I just checked the Toyota corp's stock symbol- there's a family of symbols shown - can't easily trace WHERE the ownership is / where the profits go. 

      When I did the 'buy a van' analysis in 2003 major factors were: 
      -- The need to handle 36000 miles a year.
      -- Reliability
      -- Whether my van would outlive the payment stream. I wasn't / am not confident that most 'US makes' will either do that.
      -- Reputable dealer / support network.  

      Based on the above factors, (Consumer Reports information and personal experience with FMC/ Chrysler family / Gm dealers in the NJ area) my choice narrowed  quickly to Honda and Toyota. 

      Your mileage may vary; my search led me to a van that may not be the BEST choice, but it's been good enough so far. 

      -Rick 

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        From: DaveL322 at comcast.net
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        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Toyota
        Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:40:15 +0000

        Ideally, for the US, it would be better to have the profits stay here as well.

        Nonetheless, the workers get to stay here, the workers salaries stay here, taxes stay here, and Toyota has invested profits in the US building the infrastructure to manufacture in the US.

        Far better for the US than the only piece being point of sale.  Quite possibly better for the US than many US firms which design and manufacture overseas, and then import back to the US for point of sale.

        Regards,

        Dave

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          From: "Gerald Gallagher" <ggall at bellsouth.net> 

           Toyota, built in USA BUT, all Profits go to Japan. Something to think about?

          Jerry Gallagher

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        Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 15:34:25 +0000
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