[NSRCA-discussion] I give up -- almost new Webra 160 AAR aero with MC carb for sale
Rusty
rdose at wi.rr.com
Sat Jan 21 19:30:35 AKST 2006
David,
I also have been challenged by these very powerful motors. Please check the
head bolts, pipe length, glow plug (OS F) and set-up EXACTLY as described on
the Central website. You MUST start at idle and patiently adjust the curve
from low to high at EACH throttle detent...2 - 3 hours of effort. Then they
are marvelous...
Rusty Dose
Treasurer
NSRCA
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Flynt" <dflynt at verizon.net>
To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] I give up -- almost new Webra 160 AAR aero with
MC carb for sale
> Let me first say to those who have achieved success with this engine --
> you
> are intellectually superior, and you have magnitudes more patience than I.
>
> I tried over three long days to get this engine running, and on the ground
> I
> thought I had this thing running quite well. It turns a 15.5x12 APC
> 4-blade
> at 8000 rpm, brand new, at a rich setting, with 1/2 tank run through it.
> It
> has enormous power and compression. Too much compression in my opinion.
> I
> can barely turn it over with a gear reduced starter. For me, it does not
> hand start easily with a chicken stick, although the first day I had it
> starting by backing up the prop against compression, when everything
> seemed
> just right. It takes a strong glow to start this engine, especially when
> you are setting it up for the first time, as the low end tends to be quite
> rich.
>
> I studied material and seeked advice on how to set up and adjust this
> engine. I spent a lot of time getting the linkage just right, and then
> proceeded with care through the points on the throttle/mixture settings.
> It
> seems straightforward once you understand the concepts, but on both trim
> flights, it died rich not long after takeoff. Today it died rich at about
> 20 feet altitude, and the landing in brush should have ruined my brand new
> ZNline Supreme. It should have at least ripped my landing gear off, tore
> a
> wing off, dented or cracked something. Somehow it hit a patch of grass in
> a
> three-point attitude, and came out unharmed except for a minor tear in the
> gear pant. Unbelieveable luck.
>
> After missing the Phoenix contest this weekend because of my troubles, I
> decided last weekend that I was not going to keep this engine. I bought
> an
> OS 140rx to replace it, because an engine like the Webra, although
> sophisticated and well made, is too complicated for me. I need something
> that is easy to start and adjust. I think perhaps one of my problems is
> that the engine could be moving around too much on the soft mount.
> Perhaps
> I have it set too rich on one or more of the mix points, or I need to
> spend
> more time with this engine. Actually, I think if I spent another day with
> this engine, I could get it running, but I have lost patience. Whatever
> is
> causing my trouble, I want to be up front with the reason I am selling. I
> ran the webra today to give it one last chance, but I also wanted to get
> it
> running to know that it is suitable for sale on this list. There is
> nothing
> wrong with this engine in the hands of a patient, capable person. It
> certainly has power to spare.
>
> It is a shame I invested so much into this engine, and I did not get to
> enjoy the performance. However, I am just glad that I did not ruin my
> plane. Oh, there was no crankshaft damage during the off runway landing,
> and no debris in the engine. I think it is a good engine if you know how
> to
> run it.
>
> Here is what I have for a discounted price (buyer pays actuall shipping
> cost. I will package with care):
>
> 1 Webra 160 AAR aero with M/C carb. Has 1/2 gallon of cool power 15%
> through it. Original box, all manuals, decals, prop washer, -- complete.
> Near new, has only been run over the last two weeks. $375.00
>
> 2 Koyo Stainless steel rear bearings for this engine. These are are
> very
> nice bearings. $12.00 each
>
> 1 tappered collet, new - $3.50
>
> 1 ring, new $22.00
>
> 1 bag (6 pieces) wrist pin clips, new $2.00
>
> 1 piston, new $35.00
>
> Regards,
>
> David Flynt
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